Newspaper of Burlington Free Press, February 21, 1840, Page 1

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NOT T II K Ii O It Y OF C A'. S A R II U T THE WEI, FAKE O F H O HI F. BY H. B. STACY. Stocntjtesfptlj (Conflress. THE CUMBERLAND ROAD. TiiimsnAv. Feb. G, 1S40. Mr Preston moved to take up the resolution submitted by him yesterday, calling on the Secretary of the Treasury for information whether the estimates in his nnnual report included any sum for the further continuation of the Cumberland Road. On this resolution there was considera ble debate, by Messrs. Smith, of Indiana, Wiiiti:, Romnson, Crittenden, Brown, Norvell, WitioiiT, and Preston, in which it was admitted on both sides that an estimate for the Cumberland Road was not included in a certain $20,000,000 where it was supposed it ought to appear, if any where ; it was also generally main tained that neither a recommendation nor an estimate for the road was to bo found in the report at all ; and it was argued on the one side that it was improper, unusual, and indelicate to ask the Secretary of the Treasury whether such an estimate was contained in a report which was already before the Senate, or to ask him, if it was omitted, what were his reasons for omit ting it. It was also maintained on the .am 3 side that though the Secretary of the Treasury had not recommended ap propriations for this road, it had been done by the Secretary of War, so that it might be still considered as under the fostering care of the Administration. It was argued on the other side that Congress was not bound to look to nil the aspects of a Janus-faced Administration, to ascertain what wore its real intentions; that a recommendation from the Secretary of War on this subject was irregular and irresponsible; that the Departments ought not to be exculpated from their due re sponsibility; that the responsibility for this road ought not to bo doubtfully thrown upon Congress, but that they ought to know whether or not the Administration was in favor of present appropriations for the road. Mr. Davis moved an adjournment. Negatived by a vote of 21 to IS. On motion of Mr. Clav, of Alabama, the motion to take up the resolution offor ed by Mr. Preston was laid on the tabic by yeas and nays as follows ; Ykai XUr Alluii, Hmi.on. liinwn. tliicl" ri nn, A IhIi.iim.i, I'ntnin, (iinmlv, I Inli'.i.ircl, Kins, I. ion, I iini)kin, Mnniim, , irhulii'. Nni ell, Knanc, ! ifi, Smith, uf CoMiiHcilcnt, ."iniili, nf linliann, Sir.miiP, "'liinjenii, ViiiMii, Wti krr, Willi, William. Wriulu 23 Nays Wp"i. Iletu, Cl.iv, of KenturUv. CLiyiiiii. Ci iiU'iiilcn, Diiim, llpmlpri-on, I'lieliti, I'rR'ilii". I'rcMiin. Itnliiiisnn, I'njjglep, cSpnice, rimer, White, Yimn 15. The Senate then adjourned. Friday, Feb. 7. The resolutions offered by Mr. Pres ton, calling on the Secretary of the Treasury for information in respect to the Cumberland road, came up in its or der. Mr. Younr offered the following sub stitute for that originally offered by Mr. Preston : Jletolvtd, That llie Pipiilpni Iip reqiiPKtPil lei rniiiiniiniralc! in llip s'ennle. uliPlher, in Mir si'iirnil ippnit ol'ilie Serieian iil'ilic Tip.iriir), iii.hIp si lie cotiimpncpiiiriii uf lie irPfPiil M-J-it.n of Coil CrPff. nml iIip P'l iin.ito-t inerpin rniii.iini'il of px iPiiIiiiiipk iri)itipil, Iip li.m iiii'lnili il any appro, liriiiiinii fur I he oniMiiirlinn nml com inn.i linn uf ilie Cinnliei html mail; .mil if mil, uln'ilnr llm niiiiAiiin was unintentional or ilrpignetl I)) linn or ihu Cstsc lelai v nftWiir. Mi-.Clay, of Alabama, moved to lay the whole subject on the table : on which question thero was a tie, the yeas and nays being as follows : Yka. Alt"?. Allen, IJenlnn, Brmvn, Ru. rlinnnn, C.illiiniii, Clin, nf Al.ilnma, (Jinhheil, Ilnlili.tril, Kinsj, Lumpkin, Nnrii'll, I'leici", Unatie Sevier, Smith, of Cnniiecliciil.Kliirgron, Sslrnngp, Tappan, Walker, Willmm 20. N A ys. Iles?iii. Helm, Cla)iini, David, Dixnn, Fnlion, Gtunilv, lleiuleiMin, Knight, Nlrhnln', Flielps, I'rPiil ihi, I'lpmnn, Knliin'nn, Uiijiglcs h'miili, of Indiana, Welmer, Wlme, Wiighl, nml Yoiina 20. Tho Vice President said, as ho thought it lor tho benefit of tho Cumbor land road that this inquiry should bo made he voted in tho negative. So tho motion to lny on the tablo did not prevail. Mr. Grundy suggested that it would bo best to strike from the substitute tho call on tho President to obtain informa tion, and simply ask him to inform tho Senate etc. Mr. KiN said, as ho had perceived something of the kind would pass, though unusual, uncalled for, and unnecessary, ho moved to strike out the hitter part of tho substitute which mado inquiry as to the intention of the President and Secre tary of tho 1 reasury. Mr. Wi'iister was understood to say that ho did not wish to ask either tho intention or opinion of tho Secretary, but simply whether this item was contained in tho general languagu oi mo report Ho would therefore vote for this motion to striko out. Ho was nlso understood to object to tho insertion in tho bill of tho usual re ference to the fivo per cent fund. He also suggested that, in this call on tho President, reference ought to ho made to tho Secretary of War a? well as to the Secretary of tho Treasury. Mr. Smith, of Indiana, remarked that if all this was dono, tho resolution would amount to nothing. Mr. S. would go with tho frionds of the work from either party; hut, when gontlomun said thoy would not so voto unless the Administra tion was in favor of it, ho desired that their wishes might ho gratified on that point. Mr. HuniiAnn argued'against adopting the resolution in any form whatever, un less it should be for a direct inquiry of the Secretary of War. Mr. SrnANRn also went against the resolution in tola. Mr. Allen charged, with extraordina ry earnestness and at much length, that this resolution originally came from the great leader, the Ajax, of the enemies of the road ; that it was advocated by those who were tho friends of the road, but the opponents of the Administration, with a view to. an effect in the Presidential election ; but ho would go against the whole as tho friend of the road and of the Administration. lie particularly applied bis remarks to the course of Mr. Smith, of Indiana. Mr. Smith, of Indiana, replied that all the friends of the Administration and tho road were with Mr. S, on this question, except some five or six, and the Vice President himself had voted with Mr. S. Mr. Allen exculpated the Vice Pres ident and others, as not advocating tho resolution, but as merely voting for it when it could not be avoided. Mr. YoiiNo vindicated tho frionds of the Administration and the road in voting for the resolution, and urged that no harm could come from ti. Mr. Walker proposed a substitute for the substitute. Mr. W.'s substitute mak ing the call directly on the Secretary of War. Mr Preston was opposed to this sub stitute, and, in reply to Mr. Allen, said ho was always openly hostile to this road, and ho had taken what he regarded just measures with a view to defeat it. If the Administration .should show itself against the road, that would bo the end of it. And if in favor of it, the bill in favor of it could no more than pass ; which it doubt less would do, under tho present uncer tainty as to tho views of tho Administra tion. Mr. Benton urged that to call on the President for his views of a pending mea sure, or even to tell the opinion of the President, was abroach of privilege, and ho read various extracts to show that it was so considered. Mr. Merrick urged that the call was for facts, and not for uiilnioin. Mr. Preston said of course this sup posed broach of privilege would bo by tho feenato against the donate, so that it must censure or punish itself. Mr. L AiiAN moved the indefinite post ponement of the subject, on which ques tion the yeas and nays were as follows : Ykas Mivus. Allen, lieniuii.Hnnvn litirhin an, Clay nf A l.iham.i. Cuilihpct, llittihait. Kins, I. inn, Lumpkin, Mcminn, NoiipII, I'lPrrc. limine. .Sevier, Smith, (nf Cnnn.) iSliiigenn, iSlrnne,T.i. pan. Walker. Wall, William-.- 22. iAYs. Ylejurs. liens, Claviim. Crillemlrn, D.uiiS Dixnn, lelmn, Cimmly, Knijlii, fileirick, Nii'hnl.ia, riielp--. Purler, I'lentUs. PifiUnn, Unli. imiiin, llu;!ri h'miih, (nf liiili nni,) Spi'iice,Wet. pier. Wlme, Wrijiht. Ynnnij 22. The Vict. Prksidknt voted in tho negative, as ho said he had now the ad ditional motive of calling on tho Admin istratiun to do what he was sure they would be willing to do. So the motion to postpone did not prevail. Mr. Kino's motion (Mr. Walkimi's not being in order) to strike out the latter part of the substitute, was then carried in the affirmative, Yeas 31 ; Nays 12. The substitute, as amended, was agreed to. Mr. CniTTr.Nnr.N said the resolution was now a mere call on the Presdent, ask ing him to explain tho report of the Sec retary of the Treasury, which ho thought rather too embarrassing a subject for the President ; and Mr. C. would therefore vote against the resolution. Mr. Webster made a few remarks, nearly to the same effect. The resolution as amended bv the sub stitute, was n nv rejected by tho following vote : l eas 4 ; IS ays ul. IIouhi: op Itups. Fob. Tho debate on the Cumberland Road was continued. Mr. Raiuden rose and said that ho did not rise to discuss the merits of tho Cum berland road, or to investigate its claims upon the patronago of Congress at this time, but simply to explain how its frionds had been forced into tho disadvantageous attitude which they now had to assume. Ho proceeded to observe that, heretofore appropriations upon it had been embra ced in tho estimates of tho Treasury, sent to tno House as indications ol tho opin ions of the Administration through that organ, of what was wanted for iho public service, and within the means ol tho I reasury. Hut on this year (said Mr. It.) that item of expenditure has been dropped ami wholly omitted in tho l reasury esti mates ol tho wants ol tho Government and the friends of that great work have no other means left them of mettinir it before tho Committee of Ways and Means (tho only committee whoro an appropriation can originate) but tho 0110 now adopted. Ho was fully awaro of its disadvantages, but it seemed agreed by all its friends that it was tho only way loft them. He fur ther remarked that it was very important to tho West to know who was for nnd who was against this work ; there should no longer bo doubt about it ; mou and parties should bo unmasked. FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 21, 1840. Mr. Pickens said that, if he under stood tho memorial which had now been called up, it canto from a convention or meeting on the subject of tho Cumberland road, and tho object of tho gentleman from Illinois (Mr. Casey) was to move this resolution by way of instructions to tho Committee of Ways and Joans. Now, he (Mr. P.) submitted to tho House whether a discussion ought to bo brought up, at this period of tho session, on the subject of tho Cumberland road 1 If it was intended by the gentleman from Tlhnois to press these instructions to a vote, and the voto should he in lavor ot them, it would be noting more nor less than equivalent to tho passage of the Cumberland road bill. Was the House prepared now to march up blindfold to this question, without understanding it in all its bearings 1 Was tho llouso prepa red, at this early period of the session, to vote lor such indiscriminate appropria tions ? lie maintained that to pass these instructions now, would be equivalent to making an appropriation of $150,000 for each of tho States mentioned therein. The gentleman from Illinois (Mr. Case.) was too good a parliamentarian not to un derstand thoroughly the effect of these instructions, if they should be passed. He hoped the matter would bo disposed of promptly, and with that view he mo ved to lav the instructions on the table. ftcr some further discussion the ques tion was put upon Mr Pickens motion to lay upon tho table, and decided in tho negative vcas SG, navs 112. The debate was then resumed, and Mr Jiiddlc proceeded at some length to un mask the policy of the administration in this matter. As we have occasion to use Mr TJ's. remarks in another column, we omit them here. Mr Reynolds, of Illinois, followed. He observed that this subject of the Cum berland road was one of peculiar interest to his people, nnd ho could not but con sider himself peculiarly unfortunate that whenever it had been introduced, the at tempt had always been made to mix it up with politics. lie had twice made the attempt, but never had been able to get it tho subject itself. Mr. R. was not igaiiist gentlemen's asking tho President whafpvor cijiiistions they pleased; it was not his desire to stillo investigation, hut he would confine gentlemen, if he could, to the subject immediately before the House. It tho President was guilty in the omission nf this subject in his Jes sagc, must the House follow his example? iMiroly not. Ho was lor placing every man on his own footing. For what the President had said, and for what he bad omitted to say, ho was answerable to the People ; hut the President s course was not to govern theirs. They were not de pendant on the President, or answerable to him, but to the people who sent them here as their Representatives. Ho en treated gentlomcn to discuss this subject on its merits, and to leave tho Presiden tial canvass alone. Let the committee bring forth the bill, and then, if gentle men considered it wrong, that would be the time to lay it on tho table ; but if no instructions were given, and the commit tee were allowed to proceed on the old doctrine of expediency, they might go on thinking of it and thinking of it till the last night of tho session. Let each gen tleman bo brought up to tho mark, and say at once whether ho was lor tho inves tigation or not. PENSION APPROPRIA TTON. Iloirsu or Reps. Feb. 7. Mr. Jones, chairman of tho Committee of Ways and Means, wished that by con sent, the House would now go into Com mittee of the Whole on tho Appropriation bill for the pay of Revolutionary pensions. lie Muted that those pensions foil duo half-yearly, early in March and Septem ber, and unless speedy action should be had upon this bill, it "could scarcely bo possible for tho Secretary of tho Treasury to have the necessary funds at the various points where the pensions were tube paid. If tho pensioners, many of whom wore very aged, had to perform long journeys to roach those points, and when they got there found no moneys provided to pay them, it would bo very severe disappoint ment to incm,and would work oppressive ly on persons of such slender means. Besides, thoy were restricted by law as to a certain period in which thoy must present their demand, or it could not bo admitted. Mr Pickens suggested to Mr Jones that ho should vary his motion so as to go into committee on this bill at one o'clock, and let the intermediate time bo devoted to tho offering of reports of committees nnd resolutions. After some conversation on this sug gestion Air. Dawson inquired of Mr. Jones whether it was not tho usagu of tho Gov ernment to keep this pension fund always ono year in advance Was not tho amount for 1810 already in tho hands of tho disbursing agents? Mr Petuikin objoctod to this question boing put or answered. Mr Jones then moved a. c sponsion of EnKttMBMMHPUESIBiiTKra.' the rules to enable him to make his mo tion for tt committee of the Whole. Mr Dawson pressed his inquiry ; and Mr Petiukin his objection to it. Mr Hem, said it was tho constant usage to put quest ions to the chairman of the Committee of Ways and Means touching business introduced by him. After some altercation, Mr. Jones was allowed to respond to tho inquiry, and said that it was tho practice of the De partment always to forward funds in ad vance a certain time, lie did not exactl know how long, before the period when the pensions were to bo paid ; but he in ferred it as a fact that tho money for this yoai had not been so forwarded, be cause the amount of unexpended balances from last year, under ono head of pen sions, would not more than meet the amount necessary. There was enough, under other heads, to meet the amount for tho first half year, but not under that head to which this bill belonged. Tho question on suspending tho rules was taken by yeas and nays, and decicded as follows : Yeas 10!), nays 40. Thero being two-thirds in the affirma tive, the rules were suspended. Mr Jones then moved that the House, ot 1 o'clock, go into committee of the Whole on tho state of the Union to take up this Pension bill. Mr Garland wished to have read a statement from the Pension Office, show ing that there was already an amount of 81,400,000 to meet the payments for which this bill was asked. Mr .1 ones repeated the statement he had before made. Mr Garland, of Louisiana, said that the agents for the payment of these pen sions were, for the most part, banks, or the presidents or cashiers of banks, or else leading politicians, special favorites of tho Administration, and they had al ready in their hands money in abundance wherewith to pay. Mr Beatty called for the orders of tho day. The Clerk had begun to read the paper from the Pension Office referred to by Mr Garland, when Mr Turnhy objected, and demanded the previous question on Mr Jones' motion. Mr Garland said, if the gentleman from Tennessee was going to stand on strict rule, the gentleman's own motion Was OUt 01 uiuci, m-i-iiiij m. r I t .!,,, lloor, and as tho reading of the paper by the Clerk was objected to, be would read it himself. He accordingly proceeded to read a general statement from the Commissioner of Pensions, stating the amounts due un der each pension law, together with the balances on hand to meet them. The whole pension list, he said, amounted to about four millions. There was applicable at this moment SI ,400,000; and yet here was a bill asking for two or three millions more, to go into the hands of the pensions agents. Some of these were banks, others Governors or ex Governors of States, political favorites of tho Administration, who would hold the money before it was due, and use it for their own benefit. This was all the com pensation they received for disbursing the money. It was time to conectthis abuse. Nor was there any reason for all this haste and urgency in pressing the present bill by a suspension of the rules. Mr Jones insisted that the gentleman from Louisiana (Mr Garland) had made statements which were not warranted by the practice of the Government. The geatloman supposed the pensions to be paid quarterly, and, as there was over a million on hand, tho gentleman seemed to supposo that tho appropriation in the bill was unnecessary. Mr J. would correct him. The pensions wero paid half- yearly. Mr Garland said he was hilly awaro of that, but insisted that there was enough money on hand to meet the half-yearly payment. Mr Jones said that the half-yearly amount was about two millions of dollars; if the 'rentleman could pay this with SI .'100,000 it was a mode extremely con venient, and would, no doubt, become vcrv nonular with all who had moneys to pay. Ho had stated that, under all tho various heads of pensions, taken together, thorn was enniiL' 1 to meet tho hrst pay ment: but. under that particular head provided for by this bill, thero was not much over one-hall, no went on io snow that, to meet the payment of S400.000 thero was on hand but 8280,000. Mr Garland said the gentleman was mistaken ; thero was now on hand 8 100,- 000. Mr Jones insisted on his former posi tion, nnd then went on to reply to what Mr G. had said about political favorites homer nmnloved as agents to pay pensions, tinman himself had admitted that tho most of those agents wero banks, and it was the first time Mr J. hud ever heard that tho banks were special favorites with this Administration. Tho Government u-.-iss nmdv to suiniort the banks in all propor ways, and on all proper occasions I . . . ... ... i.. ! t.l .w.l lu iii-nlmwliw but certainly it would not bo protended that thoy were its peculiar favorites.'. As an immensely largo proportion of these agents wero banks, if any profits arose from the use of Government money ad vanced to them, the gentleman's political friends must enjoy all the benefit, for the banks were with his party. But very lit tle would bo found with those individuals who had been dragged up hero for the purpose of being charged with being pets of tho administration. Ho pronounced the charge to be unfounded. Mr. Pickens urged tho House to tho question on suspending the rules. Mr Smith having, after much difficulty and many cries of "order," obtained leave to correct Mr. Garland's statement so far as the State of J"aino was concord, staled that the only pension agent in that State was a full-blooded, wholohog, Hart ford Convention party tool. (. Garland, amidst much confusion, replied that that would have been so much the better reason for his being a good de mocrat. He understood tho individual referred to was President of a bank. , Loud and general cries of "order. " Tho question was now put on Mr. lonrs's motion forgoing into Committee of the Whole, and carried without a count. I7 Pickens asked and obtained leave to introduce the following resolutions : lloolvetl.'lhM llie Preiilenl uf the I'nitnl fel.ilr lie irciue.'leiT (ll in hit iiniiiiini ii Ih: inninii.i lllll! with llm inililic inlcnvl in iln fo) to nmiiiiiniiMl'i to iln llnn.-i! any iiilniin.iliiin in hi mri'"'iin i u.appci in;; llie coihIiikhi i ilip innzen of llie IJniicil .Sinus iloiii" limine the nasi ea in U i; llie Mine nf the American Mailt- wnh cnn. in ; ami I lie inteie! nf llie iientiln ami rniiimeiie nTlhc Uniieil Simp, alT c.u-d hv ilie lecent iiipiimiipx ol ills Chine?!' (!nwi iniienl liir ilie 1 1 1 j 1 1 1 f 1 1 1 1 1 ofihi: ciiiinali iml or fmeihlc iiiiimlnc. nnn il opium lino Clima : al-n, ulieihei (lie l!i iii-li Oiupi iimi-nl li,i ciu-n licit ice; in ilin of the Unilfil late-" of a put io.-c: In hlcxU.iili; ilie porin nf Ch r of oilier Indole intention ImvaitN dial (invein. input : anil any oilier inlui'iii.iiinn t"jh'iI In die L,''('iiliM' in ti'i.ninii in llie niMe m.illpip. Jhsolvcil, I'lint llie erieiau of ihu Tieasnrv lie iliiei'ieil in 1 1 .i ii - ill i ( lo 1 1 1 1 -t lliai.p. a sl.i lenn in of ilie roninieice ami nnvigniitjii betueen ihe (J, fj nml Clima finni 18-1 to 13;!9 iiicliNivi', exhiliiiin lor rneli car Hip amount ul mippir : llie lalnp anil I'-'ri iiiin nf nunuf.iolnieil iiiticlc-t ; ilie n.iIiip anil lesciipiiiin of oilier iiieirlinnilic ; nml die mm nnviiinl eXporletl ; ihc iii intiiy anil tnliio of leai the i alni! ol "ilk snnj ; Hi- "..line of oilier iner liaiili.( ; ami the mini amount impoi le'l ; ihc mnnlier ol s-1 1 1 1 1-; ihi; nmoitni of luiiiiase : and I In: iiiimuer nf seamen enip!u)cil. Tho resolutions were agreed to. On motion of Mr Curtis, a bill from the Senate in relation to the registers ol' vessels employed in the whale fishery was taken up, road twico, and referred to the Committee oiG ominorce. T ic ! f mien f linn ",.( Pn....:t. ol the Whole on the statu u. ml- ";.,;, (Mr Lincoln, ol Jassachusetts, in the chair,) and took up the hill making ap propriations for the payment of certain revolutionary and other pensioners ol the united States. Mit. 11. Garland rose to reply lo what Mit. Smith, of Maine, had said, and proceeded to read the names of several of the pension agents, together with the amounts of money in their hands, as sta ted in a printed ofitcial return Irom the Department; among them were General John P. van Aess, ol Washington Isaac Hill, of New Hampshire ; Mr Brockenbrough. of Richmond, Virginia; and George W. Jones, ol W isconsui He repeated tho question he had put, in the 1 louse, to the chairman of Committee ol Ways and Means, viz, whether the pension agents had not the money appro printed by this bill already, in fact, in their hands, and whether such was not the practice of tho Goverment l Mr.. Jones said that lie thought he had already fully explained on that subject Ho was not prepared to state positively or exactly what the practice ol the Go. vernmcnt in this respect bad been, be cause ho was not in possession of the re quisite information ; but he presumed that when provision was made to meet the payment of pensions, it was dono in time to have the hums required at the st vend points where they were to he dis bursed. Ho then went into tho details of tho estimates on which the present bill was founded. Mn. Banks, of Virginia, took tho floor for the ptirposo of explaining in relation to Dr. BrocUonhrough, ot luclimoud whoso naino had been referred to bv Mr Garland. Dr. B. had no more lo do with the investigation or payment of th claims of revolutionary pensioners than the !'ontleman from Louisiana. His was a merely ministerial agency, in strict ful lilnient'of law. Mr. B. concluded by moving that tho committee rise, and re port the bill to the House. Mn. Marvin, of New York., addr sed the House at some length on the evil of lliooxistiug mode of compensating pen sion .agents, bv an ndvanco to them of public money before it was needed, that tho uso of it might bo a remuneration lor their serv cos. Mr. M. relurretl to a de bate on this samo subject at a former se s'.on. and to the position ho had at tin time assumed, anil the returns which hud been called lor from the Department The total amount of pensions annually paid being four millions, not less than two millions of it camo into tho hands of disbursing agents six months before it was needed. The pretext lor this had wv tlint tliin nfiMits received no salary ( pay of any kind ; but so badly did tho svitem work that tho Commissioner of Pensions had been continually upplyin to Congress for tin alteration of the law VOIL. XITf fto.661 did the allowance to these officers of a fixed salary, lie adverted to the honest. xposure made by Ihe late lamented Mr. MuKim, of iialtiinore ; and lo the fact that a certain agent in the State of New York disbursed" $400,000 annually, and had in his hands !?:i00,(J0O lor months at i time, sometimes four or live months, before it had lo be expended. So noto- ious was the use oftheso hinds oy tno igents holding them, that a letter had been published from one of them, who received less ol these advances than he thought himself entitled to expect, ac tually complaining, openly, ol that fact, uid reminding the Department that the money was the only compensation pen sion agonts received for the duties thev performed. Mr. M. never contended that these public officers .should not be paid lor their services ; but so long as the law stood as it now did, it ought to be en forced, and not evaded. There was an jxpress .statute, passed in 18"(i, which provided that they "should serve without compensation. The bill, as introduced, made provision for paying ihcni ; but, as it was urged hint the United .Stales Bank had done the very same duty free of char ge, that clause was stricken out, and the duty required still to be performed, as hol.tre, hi i; of c :st to the Government. The present practice was wrong, nnd ought to be condemned by tho People's Representatives. When this House pas sed laws, all Executive officers were hound to execute them according to their true intent and meaning, and not to seek modes of evading them. Mn. M. went on to show that the prac tice of the agents as soon as the money in their Jiands under ono head of pension was expended, though they might bo full handed under other heads, was imme diately to write to the Department for more funds. By this means an agent had been known lo keep "200,000 in his hands nearly the whole year round. The money was worth six per cent ; so that such an agent was in the receipt of little less than SI 2,000 a year nearly one half the salary of the Prisidont'of the United States ! Was this right 1 A draft could go from Washington to Albany, where this man resided, in ten days at furthest : why must tho money be sent him four, five, or six months before hand ? Mr. IIoli.eman, of Virginia, said that, C.A'l?.f,,.',,.'.V.lilV!.' ()Pl10S(-,( the m'l numerating pension agents had offered any amendments or proposed any reme dy, what they said would be more to tho point. But, after all, what did it amount to 1 Did the Government lose any thing by the present arreugement ? Mr. Garland. Yes ; the uso of tho money. Mn. II. The money would be in tho Treasury, Mr. Marvin. Had not wo to issuo Treasury notes and pay an interest on them of (5 per cent 1 Was this losing no thing'? Ciies of order. Mn. II. said that the Treasury notes had been resorted to because of a tempo rary pressure on the Treasury money must be paid, and there was noting in tho Treasury to meet the demand. I5ut as to this advance to the disbursing agents, where was the difference to the Govern ment whether the money lay in the hands of those who collected, or of tlioe who were to pay it out'? The money was as liable to be used in tho hands of the ono as of the other. .Ml tho difference wa, that ono set of agents would gain by it in one case, and another set in the other. The Government made nothing, and it lost nothing, by the present arrangement. Nay: there were some advantages atten ding it. It prevented a vast accumulation of money which would otherwise take place in the city of New York ; now it was dispersed through the country. In tho cities gentlemen charged that it war. used for bribery : besides, il was a posi tive gain to the Government, to the whole' amount of tho salaries which must other wise be paid to these officers. Mr. II. however did not approve of tho present ; ho would prefer some other mode. But if gentlemen complained, why did not they move an amendment instead of em barrrssing the passage of this bill 1 Mr lived, iA' Massachusetts, agreed with gentlemen who had preceded him in the opinion that tho present mode of com pensating pension agents was a bad one, and ought lo bo reformed. In practice, howewer, be supposed it would, just now make little difference, for ho presumed tho Administration would soon come to the House and complain that they had no money. But still this was a proper occa sion io explain the conduct of the d ininistration. Under tho pretext of gi ving these agents no compensation, they paid them ten times as much as any sa lary they could receive by law. Very largo sums of tho public money wero pur posely left in thoir hands, and it was not to be "expected that they would not uso it. llo was for payjng these officers directly; then the People would know what it was they wero paying ; hut now it was all se cret, llo hoped an amendment would be. proposed, restraining tho Government from making these premature advances of public money under the pretence ot"

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