Newspaper of The New York Herald, January 6, 1842, Page 2

Newspaper of The New York Herald dated January 6, 1842 Page 2
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I YORK HKRALI). \< ? V i>rk, Tliurn.tkjr, J.muary O. ls-4'4. ii?w Vai-k Lantet, Mo. J. Copies (if this wientilic periodica',containing I'r. lien's fiBtM lecture* oa surgery, nn be kid ut KM < line, U Am .?tr ? price (i.j cents. Tbial or the Rav. M*. Vam Zabdt?No mail was received last night from Rochester?nothing I farther, theiefore, of the trial of the Rev. sinner. I To-r!ay we expect tlie close and verdict oi'ihe jary. SikMcii Rrtaklng up of ttir Xew York Cnl eritlty NrUlrnl School ? Kxtruorillnnry At" trinpt to Control tlie Pros?War ngMiiflt ^ Ike " I,nurrt '?Cupreeetlriitril Scenes In Dr. Watt'* CIlikKoom. The Faculty of our Now Med col College aad the 1/ m4M? is .; * ne ra I, hove beta thrown into a ihe greolaat excit meat duria th p tot two hays, in consequence of th-* extraordinary conduct ol Dr. Mott, who, acting under the guidance of a few mishK erable creatures, who e evident aim is, to make a |P convenient tool of the aniialdebut too pliant Profeo sor, has taken the most foolish measures to prevent v1t' the pablit at on oi aK eview of his Lectures, which has been commenced ia the columns of the Lancet It seems that the services of the editor of the lancet were solicited by Dr. Mott, at the com inencement ol the present session in the College, for the purpose of furnishing verbatim reports of the learned Protestor's lectures, with a view to their publication, under the distinguished cpoinage of Dr. | P. S. Townsend, the quondam sub editor of Judge Noah's defunct paper, and the gentleman who is at present emasculating the Professor's travels m Europe. The editor of tire /Aincct expressed Iris willingness to make the reports as required, for i which he demanded a much more moderate compensation than is usually given for such labor, on the ground that he could obtain counterbalancing advantages from the pos-ession ol his notes of the learned Professor's discourses. A document by the terms of which the editor ol the Lancet would have been bound to make no public use of his notes, was presented to him, but this lie did n"t sign, nrer'dy pledging himself to furnish Dr. Mott with verbatim reports of his lectures, at $."> each. It may be added U that Dr. P. S. Townsen4 informed the editor of the l.ancct, whilst his arrangements with Dr. Mott were in progress, that " a person had been engaged to do the lectures at # l each, and that the services of ?t?,? <>f il>,. Ijtnrri wuuId nut he rtnuired unless he would furnish the lectures at that rate," which the latter gentleman refused to do, and found alterwards that this statement was totally false?no such arrangement having been made with any individuals, and that the statement had been made merely to induce him to lower his terms. The editor of the Lancet then commenced furnishing his reports on the terms already stated. Previous to the publication of the first number of the Loner/, the editor waited on Dr. Mott, whom he met in company with Dr. Pattison, and asked hi in if he would 1 have any objections to the publication of a synoptical review of his lectures, and Dr. Mott, with she utmost frankness, expressed hi3 enure willingness that such a publication should be made in the l.tmee/, desiring only to see the proofs of the articles. Acting on this permission, which was solicited, we understand, merely out of compliment to the Professor, the editor of the Ijinctt commenced his review of the lectures in the first number ol his journal. Now, however, it seems that a contemptible clique, who dread the influence of an independent medical ournal, have excited 'Dr. Mott to the extraordinary r. and unjustifiable conduct which led tw the following ti] i ' ?eenes:? ( - *' At the usual hour yesterday afternoon Da. Hot-sro*, 1 the Editor of the iMncet, made hin appearance in DrMott's class room, and commenced taking notes of the - Professor's lecture. Alter having spoken lor about ten ^1 .; minutes, the learned Professor suddenly stopped, and i turning to the Editor of the Lancet, who occupied u Seat f on the first bench, said? Ds. Mott?Did you receive a note fioui me last night, Ed. or Lsnckt?I did, Sir. Da. Mott?Did you understand from it that you wore not to take any more of my lectures 1 Ed. or I,avi rT ?1 understood from it, Sir, that j on did not wish me to tnko any more lectures for youraelt, but ^ot tn.' it was intended to prohibit me fiom taking notes lor my own purposes. ^^B Da. Mott?(turning to the class.) Gentlemen, 1 leave it to you if this gentleman is treuting me right. Ho agreed to report my lectures for in?, and I gave him for ^ jt a very large price, but I lind that he is now di priving me of my ow n property, and is not abi ing by his con^B tract. It it right or fair that my own should be taken H away from me ? I And that this gentleman in the lorieel has givi u my lectures. Now is it right ? Will you H austain me in this view of it 1 (Very feeble applause.) 1 really do not think r, fair or honorable that this gentleV man should do so. I gave him a large price to do the ? f..r mo no.I vet ho is t&Linir all me bonelit til tiim I f self. Now 1 dont think this in lair. l)o you think it is H j fair 7 I am sure it is not fair or honorable. I ! Ed. or L*sccr?Will Professor Mottpeinnt me to oiler > my rii'w slthi'C.ib^_ D* KottdfaiMhkn *se n t. A Da. SrmsmT (we believe, a protege of Dr. Mott,) then started to his lert and said?(ientlemen, 1 don't think that?that we should allow this?this pet son to? ?dispute with Dr. Mott. 1 think?(the remainder of gentleman's speech was completely drowned in the cordial hisses of the u hole class, which continued for lom< seconds after the gentleman resumed his seat. After this dignified interference)? Kb or THr Lsncrt?(}< ntlemrn, l|stand before you brand'd as guilt) ot dishonours! le conduct. I would wanting in proper r? spect to myselt. and some of the best feelings of hum .nity. were I ti leave this place in silenee Allow nte to say, that no individual, however respectable, (bowing to Dr. Mott) nor however low, (turning to tw o or three pel sons near the door) will lie anfl'errd unjustly to impugn my character for moral roc tit tide and honor. 1 sm not guilty of violating the terms of any contract I have made?I am not chargeable with improper or unfair conduct towards the learned Profta The contract between as was sunply this I was give him rrrhatim rrpoits of his lectures, and he pay me what h? a large price anther on that about the ear hilf of usual r> numeration forsnch labor. Still, in the eye it may he a '-large price," although ^^^^^^^^^^Bdcd the arduous 1 ihor of a w eek in the attainment ^^^^^^^^^^^Bbility to accomplish w hich, the application was necessary, with a sum inferior to that paid weep of the bistoury in the some. rntl'-mrn. r -ports asjrequlred. But nrt rr pledgol m> j ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ refrain from making the tamo use am warranted in making in my contradiction on this point. Moreover, I has t hat to the publication en th" learned Professor, company with our colleagues, ?- , u'?'' A..? tu jyti'!nh 1, i nnrf I pirmitiivn vna rrattkif - - " Dr. #f >i the gcolnessto perm.t nie Dr. Most.? So, I m Captain of the dc -k here, il you The Ed "f the Lin ?' bowed and smiled, and the Profeasor proceeded - < J.-n'.lemen, 1 now mind that this g, n if I wouldn't allow h m to p iblish notica* of my h > but it was only to be about >oine subj -rts, nnw and then,' bn.l I remember thnt Professor r.stiis >n instanced the 'i< n mi B it I tol l tin? g> nth man afutwards won him to do so. Ed.or nit ? Well, Pr rat'i<on's oftfte eoin ith mine. True jcur permission was ithd awn in a two on insider# t l had s prrb'Ct rightto do.independent any content. I mad promise the public which I sr-n 'ty I onnd fullil to the utmost of my abili'y, you? w i?h to s. rve thia in, ^Wit'i a , #nd all this I can do id the present case, witho it at fairly, violating any contract, or larnish ng honor, I will review his labor* ss I would those I Oilier rrOlr?or. ? 11 n i rum m i in .1 m num* ?? i ?i>ai"-e intertill ol ?"ir pretention. In lh<> bliM", * I'll llii* r\pl nation. I I to wit lid i w , nu I no l.i. "Tuton the time ot lh??cl.i??. fo :ouiu v ill i' l I to 'ak.' my ?i at *moijut you ai a tir rf tJfM. ' I.mid ?t plar?. 1 jrr lh" 1 of t.i t f -1 li 1 I til' I, Dr Mott for torni ilaitM la t h. j ct.rcit?ratli j kirr mi merit*,lad m li'tr ti at tha public it to, ? Bhrn wuiU't iko ( it . II the frnhnaaa of the lc Khon | n*i!iihr I V'j I.i Hftnrs I n ill'- itiut 11 till' ' fi t ' afnil mn.'i' ia Dr. M It' elan i an, at tin1 ^Kand ? ? rii'?ir-l ! oh i id aprlauaa by t).< ia Pi utii I 'iiti. n S liir idt I i;t< I thi' room a f. w [tea atterwarde. and p* ?' 1 ?y one nf t;>"*e ft which medical t'tidenU, all the aorld over, ft irli a vehemei k>'. liour I erwardi, and t:.uu h <jm P, iV " L me t kJ Vt 1 ' '* In* * on h re ' VI Bv j N?w Tan J?n.1,1*M|, H|lr ilriulir I. \. Hu'Htnn rr in Mien t ?.. ? i -*f a <il l.i ? n the D<f inent of Mi iraitjr, tor ? JOHN 17. DKATKU " (Ui'.irl in* o it biu ha id) (lire me t ?* I anall retail it. air :i my own pe<-t r in. P L-l ooiofiniM I n aaiiil ltt Maadki h anler. I)*. Mott.?1 don't can- for the order?you roust go out?or I cun't g > on that's til. [ n. r?* ivns exciti in< nt in the class?lor sc roe rotnutt i coum lerxlde conltnion took p'ace.] F.d.or L.?lam unwilling to excite any disturbance, and shall then fore waire my right for the pre tent and withdraw, hut 1 will tuku proper mi asures for the tontinuanceof my reviews. Such are the occurrences wh'<h have produced a most delectable hubbub oinoog-t cur medical sa v ins. I >r. Mott threatens to resign, if the editor of the I.anc<t dares to persevere in his straight forward and perfectly proper course. Well, if so, we have a dozen oth< r masters of the scalpel and forceps.any of whom could fill the abdicated chair. The school, it is said, will be broken up. Who cares'? Another, constructed on tnore enduring principles, will start from its ruins, as rapidly as the magic palace of Aladdin. A new era has dawned upon the medical profession in this country, and New York must ever be the great focus where all the lights of science in this oountrv wili conei ntnle. T?ut the day lias gene when any individual interest or influence can oppose for one moment a harrier to the progress et a free press. The labors of scientific teachers must not he rnonsp< 1:z<?d. They are public property The editor of the Lancet, in reviewing Dr. Moll's lectures, is only carrying out a portion of widely extended arrangements, which will ultimately bring before the public and the profession the lectures of all the prominent medical teachers of the country, and no greater service cou'd have been rendered to I ?r. Mot* than this. II- is thus brought prominently forward,and placed in the same position with his confreres, whilst his lei lures are reviewed by a writer who is as superior to the paltry litcratcur to whom the Professor has blindly entrusted his "Travels," at the free eagle is to " Tlie <!al> chick, that waddles through the copse. On lett and wings?now Hies, now wades, now hops." We pity Dr. Mott. He isHn amiable, well-meaning man?he is an able practical surgeon?but he is lamentably duped. He is, alas, easily imposed on by men who, in their hearts, despise the high-souled principles of such a man, but who know well how to operate on the weaknesses of noble natures, like the creeping things that riot in the putrescence and decay of mouldering humanity. Again we say, we pity Dr. Mott. We pity him as we would any man surrounded by false friends, " whose kisses," as the wise man said, " are deceitful,"and who, to serve their own purposes, whether of self-aggrandizement or malevolent hate of that independence which they deprecate and dread as well they may, would goad their victim to ruin. Hut all the combined influence <>t any l'roiessor, or clique, or school, or college, will not, we are persuaded, control the Lancet. It is the first medical journal established in this country on perfectly independent principles, and if it only continues to maintain that stand, it will completely revolutionize the medical profession in the United States,and crush for ever the numerous cliques which have heretofore prevented any reform,gulled the public,nnd trode down with undissembled insolence, young, struggling, unfriended and honorable professional merit. The Faculty of the College were in conclave for several hours last evening. We have not heard whether they resolved by a formal vote to explode. 1'ut we will to morrow continue our review of this astonishing movement, nnd commence an historical account of the rise and progress of this School, which will present one of the richest, most rtchercht, and amusing developements of human nature imaginable, and agreeably enliven the present dull and dreary season. Singular Investigation bt a Gband Jury ? Grand Juries are sometimes grand curiosities. The Grand Jury of the Oyer and Terminer, now udjourned, entered into a curious investigation at their last sitting. We have received a full report of their secret proceedings, and they are highly amusing. It seems that having nothing to do very particulate one day, they sent for witnesses, and made a long and minute investigation into the mode and management of the "New York Herald," embracing the subjects of reporting, expresses, money arti cles, ball-, tovritt, wtgn, circulation, correspondence, and every thins;. The fort man, a very worthy man, put a number of enquiries relative to the famous express of the second Veto Message, which we ran exclusively at the extra session. Another member was very anxious to know if John Tyler, Junior, corresponded with the Herald?another, whether the President did not give us a copy of his metsage, a day in advance?and another would hardly believe but we published the message before it was delivered in Washington- A grave member wanted to know wh > were the two fair unknown ladies at Dr. Mott's Joinville toirie, and who wrote the description of that elegant concern. One worthy juror asked what was the circula'ion o( the Herald, and opened his eyes in utter astonishment, on being told that it reached nearly thirty Ihoutand. Some of the wiser members thought tint all the distant cor respondence in the Ileruld was written in our ( dice in Ann street?and seemed incredulous of the statement that it came regularly through the Post Ofliep Such an unbeliever should go to the Post Office, and ascertain the truth there. Ou the whole, the Urand Jury, before their adjournment, made themselves perfectly acquainted with the vast and mysterious process of producing such a paper as the New Yotk Herald, and 1< ft their apartments in wonder and amnz-mcnt at their former ignorance, and the depth of their new discovery. Glr nt worth* Disclosure*. New Yon*. Jim I, 1812. Mn. JAMr.s^O. Hiuxktt: ? Sir:?1 have been applied to by the person who is interested in the copyright of th* p imtdilet published under the title ot "Statement of Fiauds ou ' the Elective Franchise in the city of N"W York, in I the years ami 1*W, bv James I', ("lentworth," | to take legal steps to stop the publication of the -eune in your paper. I hope 'h at n notice of the fact that your publication doe? nil meet iii? approbation, will 1- sufficient to render any interference on my part unnecessary. Yours, lespectflllly, Jami: M. Smith, Jr 3 Wall si Ar -wr.a ?Certainly?we shall stop. We are, on i the whol?, taiher sorry (hat we gi\* *0 much. Hut I who is the "person int.'rested'' in the copyright ! ' Is it any person in the office of the Evening Ibis'! [ Does pipe-laying sell as well as poetry! IA>?tell. Ditto.? The "New Era" thinks th it Major Noah's excellent charg to the grand jury, relative to " hanks aod jnon^ articles," is on- of the oudeat that ever eroded a man's mind. 8.1 do we?so does every man. However, if the worthy Judge thinks that lie on nr>ke monry plenty in Wall street?and pr v n. banks from In .iking, by ucharje to his " (.'ibuim, ' we hope In n y repeat such charges every day Who knows hut thin is the greit" Fiscal Agent" at list! If the judge had been on the h>nch wh-n the Jacksonville Bank last broke, or lite Montreal Utticn B'nk, >r the Bennington. or the Old Town, a charge ta his " Cabinet" might have held up these in?'i'ations. and saved jthe cot un-r.ity Irotii bein* chrated out of many j hundred t! i- -v! dVIars ia worthless shinpb st< * Wuat ,uty, also, thr.t the exc-lkiit j in,re d'd tee get v h.?r,cc'o d-livcr a charge b. fere th-' U. 8. Bank brake for ?0p >,)??n might hive hrt? saved to the p"or wi lo v and orph .n stockholder*, except ? ceit in $V>,nou. 8it.v?:s Tsomitt.? M Win Adams litis just shown it- a tifst splcn.l.d silver u tmpct, which h> hi i jn-t l> m ni'.iiufm t'tring fn* Mr. E. C. Storm of New t ir'n nn. F i- > mended u* . pre*'* it from j>,-s rv.'T to do <' tpfa ' ?t the steam thip Alabama, 1.1 the iiK ii'h of i < h r I i?t, from i mi.ncre to \ w Orleans. Ji -.r "otii errnan lliour ?O ir amiable frond ?n' i. - eit n *ociiUr|in t'n ro jueri 'tof Tamirciif H I. ysterday s?-u d ' wn from the highest aent ol ti o >' b-a It, t .T'a c toy of llie Iletnld, to rea l?U'' ' \e.a?r 8 * a-.i'j ,M- sage?oh, n? I'll < t tea I the I of 'I e :'-v Mr. Van '/<\ni'% w'.ic' 1' t'i>j' y I. i- V. '<x'. If the J it e W1.I41C <is h.a u t idi . , ,'v'l put it uoulh.'ir c 1 >t lor " Au'd lingsyue." Tub Waifiinotchan* iw tub Ascbsda" r.?ThWashington!una an* currying every thing all before them. In the ;*reat game that is now playing, liiey are most decidedly the trumps. The Washington Total Abstinence Society, (head quarters at No. <1 Divnon street) held their tirs-t quarterly meeting la^t evening, in the liev. Mr. Stillwell's church, in Chryslie street?and such a jam?'twuen'. an audience at a!'?it was u regular out and out jam. Seven hundred and fifty people, who couldn't even get a standee, nor so nutcli as a peep in at the outside doors, finally * ent away from the house. And as to those who were lucky enough to get jammed inside of the house, why you'll he sure to know them all to-day, for some of them, who only gotsqueazed on both sides, will look all ilittened out like case knives, while others, who wero blessed with a four sided squeeze, will look lengthened out, somewhat in the shape of a bannister. Then, as to th? character of the audience, they were the very bone and muscle, and sinew of the people. The members of engine No. 18, in their Mnifnrrki u..?nt an.,r?n,? llV 11 OOOi [11[11CIIt Aliout fifty members of engine No. 2 went there to sign the tee total pledge because engine No. 18 went there. Members of hose cart No. 2, went for the the same reason. Three hundred people wen1 there to hear Mr. George Hall, 11 1'. (Reformed Drunkard), tell his experience. One hundred went to hear Mr. Fisher, R. D. Two hunnred to henr Mr. Brockington, It. D. Four hundred to hear Mr. Bensel sing a tetotal song?which wan encored?two hundred to hear a thundering speech from Mr. K. L. Snow,"fourteen years firemen in Huston?five hundred to hear the Lady Howard Soci. eiy sing tome beautiful temperance songs?six hundred to hear the dear little Misses Warings (one only a Yankee four-pence half penny of eight years of age, and the other a five penny j piece, six years old, (both very pretty) sing a nice little temperance ode. Oh, its no use?temperauce is all the go?the young men have all turned poets, and are making teetotal songs, und the girls have gone to singing them, and we are all going to temperance together. Heaven only knows what will become of the city if things go in this way much longer. The carpenters, and the blacksmiths, and the carttnen have all gone to making spevchee, and the's are becoming the most popular men of the duy. It would be imposfible to report the speeches of these men there last evening- Some of them were from niceyoung men whose sweethearts went there to hear them?others were your real r eghnd tumble speeches, of six hundred horse power, un.t a 1,1., to Ln.wtr fits llnhtilintr nilt ?lf a tllllfldcT cloud, or split open a volcano. The plain matte r of fact about it is, Intemperance is done for. A Jacksonville Lotteut Fraud.?We refer our readers to our Sessions report to-day, for the disposal of a lottery fraud, originating in Jacksonville, Florida. That 'ere Jacksonville must be one of the greatest " diggins down South-" Eh ! The Long Lost Murdeked Moroan ?A correspondent asks us whether Morgan, the Presided of the Jacksonville Bank, is not the same Morgan who was abducted by the rascally masons from Batavia a few years ago, and was afterwards murdered, and thrown into the Niugaia river, opposite Fort Niagara. Really, we don't know?but we shall inquire. Erie Raii.road Meetings?We call the attention of the public to the advertisements in this day's paper, calling ward meetings, in reference to the prosecution of the Erie Railroad. This company seem to push nliead with ihe same degree of momentum that their locomotive brought down from Goshen Governor Seward's last message and dying words. Very well?enterprise is enterprise. Nothing can eucceed without it. What is the Albany Railroad Company about? Splendid Hardware Store.?Just look into C. Delavan's store, at the corner of Broadway and Broome Btreet, above Canal. \ llisiior IIoohe*?John Kennedy, Centre at , has sent us a lithograph of Bishop Hughes. It is a CdDitul work, but we know not whether it is si li'ep. new or not, never having seen the Hi?hop. It represents the Hit-hop >13 a very good looking man, with a fine face, very smooth end plausible. We bhitll have it beautifully trained, and liuug up before our editorial desk, in order to make its good-natured when we write about his movements again. New Youk Exei-.gv ?The first iron rail w is laid only ten years ago, and we now have 800 mile* of railways in this State. Paks Theathe.?A N*w Comedy.?Mark's comedy of " What Will the Wor d Say 1" was produced, for the. first time in tins Country, at the Park last night, nnd we. ware very sorry to see such a scanty audience assembled to witness some of the best actitig it bus been our lot to behold, on the board* of Old Dmry, for some time. The company acquitted themselves (.dwiirablj. and each one richly earned the applause be: lowed. The piece, a* a literary production, presctts nothing extraordinaiy, but at the same timu :s a capital bintto the follie* of the aristocr. cy. We give a synopsis of the comedy, and would etiracsty recommend the public to go and seo it Pyc Hilary, (Mr. Abbott) a barrister, becomes deeply smitten with Marian Mayky, ("Mi?s Ciiilinun, tho ward of Mr Warner, (Mr. Chippendale,) at the opera Hy the aid of Captain Tarradiddle, (Mr. Placide) an individual nl?.> professes to belong to the reg ilar army, but aelnuily without any occupation, Hilary obtains an int rn.-.r wi:h Tattle, (Mrs. Vernon) the lady's maid < f Mar..hi, and, by dint of bribsry, she brings them into the prescnce of hor mistress. This introduction prove* by no means agrtcablcto Mr Werner. and ho politely invites the gentlemen to It avo ts< house, and alio warns Tattle to cpiit Miss D.i Tor.*, ( diss S. Cushiuan) who afterwards turns oat to be a daughter of sir. Warner, is a governess in lb; family of Lord Norwold, ( M r. llany) who is possessed nl a wife very particular about what will the world say," and by this maxim rrdt.ccs her Lord to povorty. Nibnle, (Mr Andrews) the chief footman in the employ of Lord Not void ci nsider* himsilf as good cs the governess,and refuses to convey a letter to the post-oftc <- for hiwhich action cxeites the wrath ofyoung Norm Id, (tdi.rke) and gets Nibble a beating; he in lti* tur.i becomes chagrined, and gives Lord Norwoki notice of his intention to quit his sen ice. This interference on the part of youngN< rwold, in behalf of the ft-/t-rno-s, gives ditpLasure te bis n other, (Mr*. vVbesti h-y) a*d sf.e J'-charges 'he governess, vm-u young j ^onvi'iu IVIIOMIIB mn uum.< t ? I nc i;in. .I,n? #c j Vere are in,in unil wife. J'hanic ininico nteiy uian* j tin the brow of (be ontoci.ti< Norw"Ida, af tb?ir on'it conde.eoin'on to m.">rrj a p.over;,era,aid in ( tlmir anger thejr distarJ hun ai.?t bai.i'h biru fi <m , hi* hnue. They obtain b >urd i.i a \rry bmubie, \?' ich prove* t.> be t1 h mi nf Turra I diddle, 'rho it poasesaed of a t: .* a - *i r_y of a w . fo, j (Mis knii.kt) circumstance ke.'u :: lonobn ly hut I himself. Voting Nnrwndd aid hit wife r r?'reatul j it It much hxpi?ality h,- rarrxdiddlc, when tliey ; are discovered liy I'y? 11 !>.y inthvir rr'reai, t c h tvin ; ia?r tiated hi.a-eif Irlo the i?tei<,r of Mr. ! Waincr, ui di rtake- to fi.ul >ut * lit. iv;k eu bout a of his lo-t dai ; tor, and ?iicciedi it finding her bo* ii atit the roof his e'd c ?|aa!r i I. . r tdiudle !i ill* course of the piece, \'r. Warnr. k .i Lord N irivoid turn ' it tuba broth r.uand t'n eonndv ! t.i nrluui * t> itil n rccuicil kti*n, i.nd h.ippijn * r.ign* tiaieersah At the lall if the citr..t?:>, th announcement of repetition a.n itemed with witch t. o'auje. T.iis pieci is note having a i?r*.. run at Ci'T'n' Garden; .it firat it t. m unpopular but haa aince ?:iC? < iltd, w . wo bop*, t.. <rr it here, at mil ably. VVa mil speak of the ,v. rforioc ? Le real tor. Mn 11a *?f\m ? Thiaf^entlermn "if vp concert t -.ii-ljt ut N. w uk, art J on I?i lay ni.i.t lie -,i v a Goiieert of! M uio ut tl " ilu:j,er s iiutii ' e in ttii < i if* WV hope to the hou* crowded on '. e o-e.i?ii n. nrnl w* would reeomn-nd the a 1 inrers o' Vr. lir tl. iui to iMiii'tuc" tins op; ortuniiv to enjoy n e nmirnilioent ex cation of sacred tai'sic H* i'f nitoir: ni in bi/ft', nnd we r.iav not a ain be ?b'c to h* uf him in this depaitxcat of his ptoferinu. V tu'i Miti. ?This gentleman f.iret p leelute on Tiidi* ni;.it, at Clinton If all, "On f!.? CvfOn* tric t i*'f the Ife^n lat'.tla.'' It v.i-i I ' qnti a dri/il ahaif. POSTSCRIPT. JlrtHge of the tiortraor of Pennsylvania. We received no menage from Governor Porii r last night, llrnson?The Senate of Pennsylvania had not organized yesterdayTWHSTT-SEVENTII CON6RE8S, Second Session. Senate. Tuesdat, January 4,1812. AMERICAN ClTlZCB* AT BRITISH PENAL CoLORIES. Mr. Wiusbt presented a petition from Buffalo, praying au interference of this government for the release sf American citizen*, transported by the British government to Van Dieinan's LandVarious other petitions were presented by other Senators, reports wore made on private claims, several bills of no public interest were introduced and passed through their preliminary stages, and soni? were read a third time and passed. The remainder of the morning hour was consumed by a discussion on bills for revolutionary pensions. Fourth Day's Debate oi? the New Mr. Bates resumed the debate on this subject. He said it was a simple i|uestion of reference of the Secretary's Report to a Select Committee, and he had listened to the discussion which had grown out of it with great surprise, and what was unusual, with greet pain, lie saw no possible good that could result from it, on the contrary he saw nothing hut evil, unmixed evil, and that too unmitigated by the^con.-iderafon that there had been any sort < f necessity for it; and it had filled him with despondiag apprehensions that nothing will be done on this particular subject, on which, of all others, the country demanded of th?m that something should t- unne. vv uh mese views, tnereiore, ne nm no' lise fur the purpose of entering into this debate; his object was to prevent, and his wish was not to 'ft luce it. The report of the Secretary of theTrea sary presents to Congress, in an intelligible form, the views of the President on a measure of vast interest to the people of this country?which views (subject, of course, to the limitation o( the President h known opinions of the constitutional power of the government), are concurred in by his Cabinet. It assumed no tone of dictation to Congress; it arrogated no claim to perfection, but it expressly invited modification; and submitted at the call of Congress, it was for Congress to adopt it, to change it, or to reject it at pleasure, and *urely it merited at -the hands of Congress the most grave passionate, impartial, and respectful attention. It might be all right, or it might be all wrong It proposed a pi in bearing upon the destinies of this natiss, and it was therefore entitled to consideration, and for one he did not feel at liberty thnsin advance to commit himself either to its support or its rejec* ; tisn. On this subject he wished to havs all the 1 light which the public mind and the pubiie prerscan throw upon italic wished to hear what practical busi es?mea say of it and its operation, and above all he wished to see n report from an intelligent select committee, nnd when the proper time came lie I trusted he should be as well prepared and as prompt te act as any other Senator His impiession was strong that this Report, and the bill embraced in the report, would aaswer some good purpose, but when they got the report of the sel-. ct committee, it might turnout that in the bill there would be very little of a Bank, and so little of power to receive to receive depositee, or to issue notes or bills, or to deal in exchanges, that even some of his friends near him without doing violence to their own feelings, might be content to take it. In his judgment, therefore, the proper course to send it to hfcommittee, uncommitted on their part, and his confidence was strsug that this report will answer some good purpose. Bat this was not the time for him to ex prone hft views in respect to it. It was to him of no sort of consequence, what the scholar or the critic here, or elsewhere may say; if the power were given to him to make the report, he should not care what they said The report was before tlie Senate and before the world, and the report speaks for itself, and that was enough. The country required that seme thing should be done for its relief And what was it 1 The President had propos"d his nlan through his Secretary?the Senate on the other aide, had proposed their substitute?a Sub-Treasury?and what was proposad by his friends (the whig*) on the other side 1 What was the measure of relief which they propose as a substitute, far the one proposed by the Secretary of the Treasury under the direction of the President 1 None at all. He took it for granted, that a Bank of Discount was out of the question for some years at least; and if this were not taken as the ba is of some measure by Congress, he asked his friends if thev were to come there and remain for six months, more or less, end do nothing on this subjects- The responsibility of a Senator of the Un.ted States, at the present crisis, was appalling, and he felt oppressed by it to a sadness ot heart. Something must be done for rhe reliel of the country, or at least an attempt must be made to do something ; and would they allow him to tell tliem what in his judgment the country requires at their hands? In the first place the country demanded, if he might be permitted, to u?e the language of his friend from N< rih Carolina (Mr. Mangum) that they would lei by-gones be by-gones. The evil of the oay had Iv'en sufficient, heaven knew, and as the country fi-it in every fibre What wa9 passed was history, they could neither re-enact nor recall it ; the scroll was rolled up for the future But the country demanded another thing at their hands It demanded the exercise of an elevated patriotism?that they should sink themselves and sacrifice themselves lfneed be for its good. But the country demanded another thing; it demanded not only that they should act, but that they should net unitedly. It was not for hitn, so fresh in that place, to act the part of an adviser, but this debate he conceived to be out of time and place, and lie hoped they would hear no further denunciations until a more suifeble time came. It might be that they should not be able to achieve nny tiling; he had great doubts (hat (hey should not, bin he war for 'he trial; for on hi* lilt* the country would sustain them if they u>tallied the best and the moat attainable thing under (he circumstances of the caje And if it was found with (he lights of experience that it required it, th- y could amend it. For one he was ant content to put all at hazard upon the chance of a IJniud States Hank of discount ef er three or four ye? rs, or of a Sub Treasury, with the con. i igency e f having neither. He was for att. mpting now to accomplish their abject, with the limitations row prescribe1*, and give him leave to ray that the l ite of the whig party depended upon t.e course tliey might pursue in relation to the matter under conviderat'mu. lie believed if they acted w tth un honest purpose, the people would sustain them; and if they did not nit thus he believed the people would cart them off. Such were his views or. tins subject, be they right or wrong, and without going into the subject at all, he rose for the purpose i f .ddrescinu these views, in this surnmtry way to the Senate,let tlmm avail what they would: and having dont it,he hnd accomplished his purpose Mr. Hxrhow expressed his abhorrence of th-* plan pr >posed by the President. He said he had not reu.l through two pages of it before he threw it down, his cheek burning with indignation 11knew not how any mm could be alarmed, ns the resident prof?seed to be, at n Hank, of the United Stjites, and ?-t rec? mtnencled und advocate this ons er?It was to him iistoni-hing. A Hank of the United States was innoxioua comptired with this gigantic government Hank. In Lnglnud, when the ministry had a favorite mea?ure, which met with tire disapprobation of the people, they resigned their places; and he thought the cabinet here ought to r-s'-n; he would uot say the I'l-sident.a'so, for that would be revolutionary. And.f the cabinet would resign, he would coue-nt to rake them again into the whig church, provided they resigned with n illume this plan fix d lor a hill *t exchange lo run? and thai wwt t'trty days (Laughter). As an advocate at State. Ha Ira he wna opp.i-ed to the scheme In one ol his to m--ages thu President spoke of h:s conscienc" .wri of Constitutional fcrupl-s; n< w h- (Mr. Harrow) alw ays looked w ith fusnieion on u political m u who app-nled t? moral obligations \Vhxt hnd religion to do with th- dtsch ir_e ?I the duties of the executive' (Slight laughter.) The Constitution and the Laws w ere tne L .e nxt'Ur'j UiL U ClX I U r atJ h'.U (i llu U'JO /. .II cerned. But lie reengaged no k,n^fr th? Irei eic1''nt m tli? brad ci ta? whit; party; th. r< I h*u btfvn already h reparation a vinculo mt'ri i l'v thbill th? Prcai lent hud tmbjec'i <1 bi iwll ti> tli? ridicule < i the democratic i> rty, ? .1 I ih' acorn of ill - w hit? party ; and he hoped i >:. in -nifri I m:Ii. 11 r of finance, ih olBprug 01* th'1 union ol Northern tcderifisia and \ 11 ^;ini.i uh.-iri :, v, a he sir i<?;;i?'d in .is- birih. 1M1. Iwottr'.iieAi moved un adjournment, imt on the -ugce ot Mr Merrick, the mo*ion wa? clt?t'.? d ito on in procerj to the cor,aider*.ion ol Kiecaiive t>u*:i?'M, which wae agreed to. Uoaic of Ht'priirntal.lvii, Tvtanav, Jan. 4. Tnr <>*r Tfum r*n?rtri,*. Mr. Hi".1 he Aiahr.lto orter \ joint resolutions'' hieh s\ m ? < i> of one that lie han ottered nl the In i 1. pjon -.mJ b 1 ml r.cirl too earlieat opportunity o t(T> in In lifting it to the not .ce of the House. ' J'he re?elo .ion tva? then read, and wai lor the pnrpo'' of. ?iendintr lb. Contti'ution fo as'c restrict the eli j.l 1 Jit) oft:?? Pfeaidor t to a aingle term of four years. .ilr.Wmri tishe.! it Ihi lesnlution wos in ord> 1 7 A * <ia 11 was not 11 't ?n objected t Mr. Wn.cea uklthtt b e ol jacteil to it, vecHiist^tF i . . wrdi.: 40*'' M. He sr ?jM it war nn exact copy in im th- resolution h? .ntVre.l ut (lie but ?. *i^^weei?> d Itr. Wri,i n -Tha'. 1* 110 lesion it shou^r tor. |.reaith> J,, Me l' SI the a ;M notice tbV \\<^F raaulatu n ? hi 11. th it wn in 1 id opRrr. Hr, ?t os i ,r * 'Jour v d la t M n m ' Id thst . Ii *n ?a tue t vitiOu to 1 eremi't, th >e is a* a <]>ie?tioa^r print extra copies of the report of Mr. Haaaler on the Coait 8m vey. He moved that the motion might be now taken up and decided. Mr H-wxins iai 1 he would like to be informed of the number of extra copief contemplated to be printed, aad the nmountef expense involved, before he voted on the qneation. Mr Adami aaid three hundred copir* was the number moved for. TheBrxnaa (aid that he was informed by the Clerk that the document was hut a small one, and the expense would not he more than twenty-five dollars. Mr. Cl'ihi*o?These extra copies are for the uie of Mr Haasler and not lor the use of Congress. Ssniii. Voices ?Let him pay for them himself. Mr. Horains then moved as an amenJaient to the rcsolation, the additional words " provided the cost thereof does not exceed t wentv-tivn dollars." Mr. Adams areepU-d the amendnn nt. The question wu then taken on the motion, and the Speak) r said it wascarried, but several voices called for a diviiion, ami the memheri being counted, tS appeared in the aflirmativo j is the motion to print extra copiel was loii. Abolition Fstitiohs? Kx rituuiit Adam* Chccimatib. Mr. Rooikviit offered a petition, the purport of which could uot be heard from the confitaion prevailing in the Mall, and moved that ieferred. Mr. Avna) ws objected to the reception of the petition, and aiked the Speaker what was the tint business in order. The Smk) a mid the presentation ofpetitiona and memorial! Irom the States in their order. Mr. Adam* tail he would suggest to the Speaker, that the first tiuiineii in order was the consideration of a memorial which he hsd presented, praying that the -Jlst rule may be rescinded, and that no invidious distinction may ba made between petitiom for the abolition of slavery, and ?ho?e for other objeets. This memorial he hid moved should be referred to a select committee with ins'ructions to report s resolution in conformity withthe pi ay er of the petitioners. Upon this question he had the ( or, and yielded it to the Chairman ol the Commitieeof Ways and Means (Mr. Killmore] to move the rsference of the President's message, with the express assurance on the part of the Speaker, that whenever that subject was disposed of, the question would again corns up, as .1 matter of course, and he [Mr. Adams] would be eutitled to the floor. The Spsakkb said there was a mistake as to the question, and referred to the journal, by which it appeared that Mr Meiiwether was entitled to the floor. Mr. Adams-I appeal to the memory of the Speaker' when at hi* instance I yielded the doorhc did not assure me that I should have the iloor when the question was disposed of. It was on that express assurance I yielded it. The SrsAxin said there was a misapprehension ou the p-rt of the gentleman from Massachusetts, as to the position of the question. Mr. Adams reiterated his former assertion, that he had the floor, when the Ipnlar as.ured him that if he yielded it to the gentlt man from New York, he should tie entitled to tha floor when that question was disposed of ? He now called for the performance of that promise on the part of the Speaker. The SrsAKcn said when the question was taken up, if the gentleman from Massachusetts obtained the floor, it should be accorded to him with pleasure. Mr. Adams again re-stated the point, and said there was now on the table of the House upwards of one hundred petitions and memorials on the came subject, which were laid over for the same reason, and could not be acted on until the question to which he referred was decided. He had a great number of petition* of the same character aud ftr the same objects in his possession, and he presumed that there were others in possession of members, and he thought the best occupation for the House this morning, would be to settle the question upon the disposition of these memorials. The Sri AKKR, after ogain stating the peaition of the business before the House, said there was no difference of opinion between himself and the member from Mas sarhusetts,as to the subject matter before the House, but only as to the form of the question. Y.irious memorials and petitions for rescinding the *Jl?t ritle had been presented, and a motion was made to refer these to a select committee. The member from Georgia (Mr. Meriwether) gave notice of his intention to debate the question of reference, and tinon *h,a they were laid over under the rule. The gentleman from Georgia was therefore entitled to the floor. Ma. Adams acquiessed in this decision, and called for the yeas and aays on the question of reference, which was ordered. Mr. Mksiwkthkr then took the floor, asd said he had no disi osition to enter into a protracted debate, a* he was entirely toe unwell to do so. Me had intimated his intention to debate the question of reference, n*t of aholi tion; he never would debate that question here or any where else. It was a matter with which this House had nothing to do, nor any oth. rr, except his constituents, or those who were similarly situated. When they were compelled to debate that question, they would use other arguments than words. Since the question was last before the House, he had received letters from gentlemen of the North, dissuading him from sgita'iug this question; and representing that tbo<e who signed these petitions were |>oor ignorant fanatics, who were entitled to no consideration, and possessed no influence. He would therefore refrain from any further discussion of this subject, and would olfvran amendment to the motion of the gentleman from Massachusetts, which ho would send to the Chair. The amendment was read, and proposed to instruat the committee to go into a general revision of the rules, to restere the one heur rule, to abolish the previous ques tioa, and to allow the Committee of the Whole to determine the time at which the discussion of any subject might be arrested, and the bill taken out of committee. Mr. Adams objected to the instructions, that they were out of order, as tha Speaker had decided that his motion to instruct was aot in order on a motion for reference, but must be put as a distinct question, and he withdrew his motion to instruct. As to appointing a committee for a general reviaion of the rules, the House eould determine the propriety of it when they recollected the course pursued towards the report of the last select committee appointed on that subject. His friend from Maryland ( Mr Johnson) had moved to make that re put the order of the day for the next Thursday, and every day then-alter until disposed of. and then contrived to get rid of it by moving to lav it on the table. (Roars ol 1-iughter, occasioned by the manner in which theclosingremarks weie delivered by the vanerabla member.) The Rn ski a raid it had neaped his memory that he had objected to the instructions, or that the member from Massachusetts withdrew th< m, and he could find nothing of it by a reference to the journal. Mr. Adams ? If the Speaker did not tell me they were in order, I did not withdt aw them. That is a fact whether it Is enterel on the journal or not (Laughter/ Mr Wise wished to know whether the Chair had de cided the point el order raised by the gentleman from Massachusetts on the amendment offered by the membet from Georgia (Mr. Meriwether.) The Srs.AKra?The point of order Is withdrawn. Mr. Adams. ?The Chair is mistaken. 1 did not with draw it. Mr. Wis*.?If the gentleman from Massachusctti withdraws it, I renew it. Mr. Adam*.?1 did not withdraw it. Mr. Wise said he was opposed to the amendment, and if the Speaker decided it te be in orter, he would voir against it. What does it propos-to do ? To revise all the rul< ? of the House, and this when there was ta majority ou that floor opposed to them an a question of vital interest to the South. lie. would sooner vo e lor tbf motion of the gmtleman frcm Massachusetts, as that was confined to or.s specific otj-'et, hut by the amend m?nt the whole subject of the rules was thrown wide open. It went for the abolition of 'he previous question the re establishment of the one hour system, and neat what he considered next in o-liousneas to the abolition of slavery in this District, it went for abolishing the right ol debate in tbis House by trampling on the mi nnity.and giving the m joritj tha power of taking a bill out of Committee ol the Whole whenever they thought proper. If it was in order, he would debate i now. The SeiAKea said it was not in order. Mr. Wise?Then 1 move to lay the whole subject or the table. Mr. Aanoi.a suggested to the member from 0eorgii (Mr. M en wether) to modify his ameudmcut, by omitting the instruction relative to the previous question. Savanst. Voices.? It is not in order. Mr Adams rose to u point of ordi r, that the gentle man from Virginia could not make his motion to lay or tho table, until the Spenker had decided tb point of or der raised by hiai, on the amendment propos d by tiu member from Georgi t, (Mr. Meriwether.) The Spkaki asai l hu had already decided the point o order. Mr. Adams(with great animation)?The Speaker di not decjde- He said he had decided, when he bal no decided. (Loud cries of order, order, from all partsof th< hall ) The Srasaita.?There will ho no difficulty betweei tho venerable member from Massachusetts, and my self. Mr. Adams?Ths Spanker informed the gentlemsr from Virginia, that ho h*J dieideil the point of orde: nguia?t me. when ho had not done so. If he had I wo il instiintlv have spiisslid from his decision. It was di rer'ly the reveraa of thrd <.*i*i>:"* made, when aomednyi since I propoacd to refer to the Select Committee wi'f initructiona No<v sir, if the S te.iker choose* to di ri.le ono thin); to-lay, ami another to morrow.?(Loar criesof order, order, from i ll part*of the hull.) Mr. Wi a called tlie gentleman from Masiachuaetts t< r, and t|>i>eal> J to the .iker. whether ho wouk indulge him, or any other number on that floor,iu i course of remark* ?o entirely disrespectful to the Chair The Srr A*> a said the g?ntleman fiom M*?a.ichu?'A| w ott'of orter, an.l meat take his aea". A* ' <)gln gueition of fact h- tween lirem. he mint t>e P*,nj|j. ail(| ay, that ithe honorable gentleman *i< mi*t?ltheJoniaal sustained lilm in thi-impression. gtsertinn. Mr. Attn.(much tullW.) 1 see i.ite ? i. .? that th Speaker feci !? I on my motion towforder on a Tructions, that the instructs weri rgp^irate mcion. motion of reference, hut moat he put idfpuhli journal* Kor the truth of this he apnr?|ed jgf aniy the Oiolie, oftho day, the National luti I,i<i0tti"n< he had made, which would ,H*tain I im in t 'i^?.(cri> * of order, order, rot withstanding the J nirnai jefiall,completely drown1 order, resoua le l tiiroughu'ipem M..**uchut tta.) ' intrthu voicoof ihn mi lukJUrd. the question on laying When or<!"r ha 1 N . jahle was It ci led ia thn ufhrm itho w hole auhjec* on k. tire Teas 1 |i, N?'p# aup.oiel the ne*t business In Mr. tjioDinr.- ajpv*ition 01 a number of petition* and order, waa th jj|m by himself and others oil the ?ir>. meinot iail \<% fhle. which were laid over to await thn ject ef thtcflansn on tha one pienrii'.cd by th. gentle action ol^piasach'itet's. m?n fi^Rata saol there were upwards oftw nty p"1 T^ithis *uMeCt, now in hl? praictiioB, which he tlUggl to the Clerk. WOin?i.[ moved to lay them all on the table. Mr AnsN* drmandrd the Tea* nnd nay on laying tie sVT*t petition on the table, (daughter 1 ' Mr. Uam*i.b asked If the question wal divisible on each petition. The SrKsaan replied in the affirmative, anil the yras a'd nay* were ordered. Mr. W Ca?T Jotiaio* asked if these petitions wet" not excluded undet the3l?t rule The Hiaisti laid not, as they merely prayed for th? re; eal of the 3lvt title, ami that abolition petition* might be place.) on the sum loot.i t i.? others 1 tie tint petition was then announced a* a petitirn fren, citi 'cnaofthc Pra.c of Onto, preying that Ike 31 t rule may be reictnded. I The and naya were taken ou the motion to iajr 1 It on the table, but prsfiou* to the result being as- I ncuneed, m Mr. Sti"?l? taid he wiihed the Spanker to inform hial whether there waa no mode of compelling membeia who were present to vote. He understood that there were V certain ItmNlM it Mar'.in Van Burma, who wished to fl make political capital out of thi* subject, and had not voted on the question. He hoped they would be com- 1 pelled to TOte. 1 The Sresiaa sai l that by the rule the members pre- I sent were compelled to vote unless excused by the I Home, J The rote was then announced to be?ayes IN noes S 87 ; no the petition was laid on the table. H Mr. Atitai said he did not d> sire to consume the time V of the House unnecessarily in calling the reus and nays; 1 but he was rerv anxious that there should he a little ac,. I curacy in the keeping of the journal; (laughter)?ha I wanted to know where these petitions were from, the names of those who signed them, end their object, and ha wished that the names of the petitioners be entered on thejournal. The SrcsxiR said the gentleman from Massachusettswould not be gratified in his desire to hare the names of the petitioners entered npon thejournal. (Laughter.) Tho second petition was announced to he from eitiiens , of Oneida coanty, New York, also pray jug that the Slat 1 rule may be rescinded. Mr. Stanley demanded the veal and nays on laying tbii petition ou the table. Several Voiiii. What's the use. Stanly 1 The yeas anil nayi were taken on the last, and tliat'e enough. Mr. ?There i? agieat difference between a petition Itom New York and a petition from Ohio. (Laughter.) The y eai and nay a were then ordered. Mr. RoatiTCLT hoped that the motion to lay on the table would be withdrawn a moment, to enable hi a to aay a few word* in explanation. (Loud crieiof * No, no," " Let's hero your vote," and ^ much laughter.) Mr. Roosetblt (aid he did net kno w the meaber whe made the motion to lay on the table, but he would appeal to hi* courteay to withdraw it for a tew momenta. Mr Abams, (at the top of hia roieo)?I hope it will be wilhdiawn altogether. (Roc.raot laughter.) Mr. Gamble laid ha had made the motion te lay oa the table, and could not, and would not withdraw it. The question wa? theh taken on toying the petition on the table, and it waa decided in the affirmative?ayta 107, sees ("3 The other memorials and petition! on the aame eubject were taken up seriatim, and du|oatd of in tka aame manner. Ma. Arnold or Tissdir.! Letting oaf mobe Steam to Save hit Boiler?Legislative Decorum aid Lkoislatite Amiikmints. Mr. Arnold said he waa about to maltr. a motion wLieh he was afraid would give umbrage to his friend?, hot ' situated as he was. he felt compel! d to make the motion, to nconsider the vote by which the portion of the Preaident's message relative to the tariff was referred to the Committee on Manufactures. He hod v.-ted with the ma- 4 j jiitv, and had a right to maka ti e motion. It would be recollected that there was a little matter of dispute between himself and the repieaentatn es fiom New Hampshire, and aa it was now tho usual time for a journment, he did not wish te deprive gentlenu u of their dinners, but would merely beg the favor of ilia company of the ' Speaker, and the gentlemen from New Hampshire, and they could settle Uiit little matter salisfacforily to themselves. (Laughter.) He had done this that member* might see he had no disjioutron to consume the time of A the House. (Renewed laughter ) J^A Mr. Wise inquired of the Speaker, if the vote was ' ken yesterday after the previous question had terminated the discussion. M The SrEAXca replied in the affirmative. J Mr. Wise then asked if the previous qucotion did not govern on the motion to reconsider, so that the motion must bu taken without debate. Also whether it was optional with the House, or with the member making the motion, whether the reconsideration should be liscussad now, or at ?ome future period. Mr. Arnold said, the gentleman from Virginia [Mr. Wist] was the lastone who ihould object to the court* taken by him, aa at the lust sea-ion, wh< n the Speaker ' decided in a similar cas* that the gentlr man from Virginia [Mr. Wire] waa out of order, he hud taken an appoal,aad thedtcision oi the Chair waa overruled. Mr. Wise aaid, he had merely made an inquiry of th* Speaker, and had intimated nothing. The gentleman was going off of at half cock. (Laughter.) Mr. Abmoi.d ?The gentleman ia mistaken. 1 always make tire, and never go otT half cocked. [rtoart of laughter.] Mr. Win inquired of the Chair whether the gentleman from Tenneesee waa in ordei T The SreiKca replied in the affirmative. Mr. Asroi.d aaid he would not feel alighted if th* mem her* did not atay and 'near him, hut preferred going heme to their dinner*. He trusted they would excuse the pertinacity with which ho had pressed this m ittar. when they considered the position in which he waa M placed. His Statu had been ferociously eaaailed, he had fl been assailed, and his constituents had been assailed by the honorable members from New Hampshire. In psrti- m cular his democratic constituent* had heen assailed as f m ignorant and uneducated, and if he should remain silent s it would he said that he would not do for hi* democratic , constituent* what he would have done hud whigs. Now he would ge a* far for his democratic eonitituenta as his whig constituents; on th ; floor he kh'tiw no difference between them. He thought that the remark of the gentleman from New Hampshire. (Mr. Burkt) considering |his position, a very unfortunate oi-o for a him. ^k Mr. Kdui'sd Braua inquired if the di mocratie portion ^^k ol the gentleman's constit in nts were the only cm > I) H could neither read nor write. I Mr. Arrold said ha wauld come to that by and V* the course of hia remarks, and he would show th# constituent! were as intelligent and enlightened# irhiil'H .int? of the learned State of Now Hainf[Laughter ] There was years since_gjd*rtMf ad Irishman, who waa nam'd It u i V F.umund7 ^ too, as I am reminded?who was a very learned si,'*" br ited man. There wm also u Scotchman nisird' ' who w us also very distinguished, bet in a some* ferent line. Now ho did not wish to violate thw;1 the House ?but he would t>e obligi d to the men?rt,m ^ New Hampshire, if he would infvrm him and ?5U*? from which of these distinguished individuals Ml'*** his lineage. [Much laughter, a nljcrics of "orf*l. 1 Mr. Burrr sani he supposed ?s tne member f 'n qn?s ioa, he would like to hawan answerl / H Mr. Arrold aaid he would. 1 Mr. Beast said he would idswer it in thd'?j * "" I Itces usually answered a que^ion, and that why ask ing another. Now he woi*d esk thu geatpen from which ofthe Arnolds, ccleti/ated or notorlotf he dr*w I ' his lineage. [Great laugher ] I Mr. Arnold aaid that wap* New Himpshli pod* of ' getting out of difficulty. /Icregrstttd to seelbdtg',,"e" I uian so uneasy, and was ping on to a?y , if nolad nat I), en interrupted, that f/mthe previan# condulWf th# mem) er to him and hinftonstituents, that h* wi a * scendantof the Scatchl'trke, the resurrectioni* who went about with a gainC of banditti, lobbing |rates of ' thei- dead bodies, and yhen they Could rot obtain he** H th'-y murdered live oide, threw them iuto a bag, anddia posed of them to the. licior*. The gentleman had tied H ' t? Burke bim, but hadmade au ui fortunate blunder,\nd Burked one of hia svh political friends h* meant H Dew. of hit State I/gitUturr ? h?- " rtaurreciea" am, mm | a.i.l 1,8(1 to inter h/tn ngain. (Or<at laughter.) Re [ would now thow ro*iediirr*par.cii>f which the hoaoraMe member frem New Hair, public had ! >II *n in'n, and fint at to hit politiacl friend in the Teucetree LegialaMr. Bowvt here roue to a point of order. Mr. Ariold laid k wat rather lata iu the day to do that. (Laughter.) ' Mr. Bomkk aahi he rould not discover any relevancy ' in theremarkt of the member from Tenntuee to the queetion pending. The dignity of that well b< of the nation, demanded that sneh a eeurc > of Jehate.^^H should be arretted. He called upon the Speaker te eon-^^H 1 fine the member te 'be euhject hi fore the House. Mr. Bi-ttt appealed to hit friend from New York withdraw hit jmint of rrdrr. Th.t gei tieman frem Ten* 1 nessee(Mr. Arnold) felt himself e.'^tie- rd.tud he hoped he would here full liberty in bin n mirk". | Mr. Bowm: ttid he could not wi'Iu'raw hit question of orJer. He had been ehtent, owing to domestic miifor tow, when the d bete on thi <; u uoe of reference had taken eo wide a raage; hot he dul r.nt het.tat* to pro niunce it impropet, h.kI justice to th. n.telved eod the I 1 country required thst it rhonld t e put ?n end-io- H Mr. Srsoi.v aaid if this point of or'e. ha/been made a I week ago, * h< n the Jiscusi on was en c^'rig to wiJe a H I lti'Uije. he would litre ttor.d hy the .< Aiber from .New H York. But the honorable memtv' ,^>1 Tenneaa. e had H 1 be, n aaaailed, and now for honnin'/* meatbera to inter- H pote t point of order to rhi. Id thi e/!'?'il;cti friendt u at H I neithit gi neron* nor just. / H The Si, nil ttid the detiatrfr'. *' n-otion ft>r r-fcr . ere- hsdtsrumed a rery ff'Jtf , 'Jv' *hirb wat inef- Bfl fi-ctmlly attempted to be,^'1 1 >' ?'ie of hit col- H leagues, (Mr. Aantrw ?J ' *n,?'niei) having been in- I , dull ml lit Ike T1 noon Jr.. itr?Meted W r th i: the gentleman , ' nuikti-o 'Mr. Ahold,) waa h titled to U.? un/'"1 ." ik-i-, thertforej el led that he waa in u(f ., . , , H , Mr. Vf. O-J*1 r? .V'! J" U fonprll.d te appeal i'mm Hie duff?|n, Speaker to th. llr,,,He i' oimht ggf^w',1 " "*? hy ni-y. end their own , i" ''y ihjt 1 u ef debate ihould H w*a r reminded the gentlemen from North Care I 1 J"*1 > 4n'1 ,h<- the aeaeelt%Ta I I JTlrt: mule on thogentUm.u. lrc.Tonneeaee.hy the I ' tTOm New "*n,I?!' ii .-it they h ?! o.I^^B yr -|,elled the itratill he had tint iu> on their Sta^HH^H Mr. Wkk would Fiiggeit to .Speaker e th? i, H In). alt- deti-rmini-dtha' the di?c>^PMm|[^^^^^^^H try of which hat been ap .?om| j itifictt^^^^^^l the courre now attempted to he , | t,T th? Mp ra< mber from Ttnneaieo, ahon Id trrrlnt'r. : I'll) w -pi -ktioa. nn .tie he.d. d thgfBtltmn alionld be permitted ?< pmeeed in thht irrernUr manner. olhi r ir.emlieii uaiiid infill on tho fl l ire latitude of rt-nark in reply, and lUuenwno know- I I. i? v here it woulJ atop. H Mr.Oif.Micn atked if the Chair Lai not decided that I t)i* gentleman from Trnnriff wis out cf order. H Th# Srnnrr. rep'ied in the negn.ien H Mr. OiLMr.n.? Then, (hough (ho gentleman i? not H itrloflv in order,Did rhair fermitt Ihoi to proaoad, I <w H ctnae irrelevancy wao indulged in l ie debate. which- H h' itnkm pi sen on the motion to u-f-r thai ?ubj?ct. H The Srraara *u about to n ply. w ' eu H Mr. W. O. Bi tlkr laid- llavi I n right lotnkr the ap- H p< ;>l from the decision of the chail 1 H T'u Brim a?Certainly. H Mr. W O. Bi ti.'b-1Then I inn:? on it! being pet. a ml H that it betaken by yea* and nry*. B Mr KiLLMnar referred to ttaeiu'ir to rbow that t'.e B Speiker'a dec uion rould not he ">t <"d. Mr. (>n uta raid if ho underlie* ' Jm u mirki uf ,ne H chair, he ad ml* ted that tb>- gentl rnu fi< m Tennowaeo B ws? not in order, and yal he p>n> iftid him to protend. Now he wlahrd to know cl II.? r ho i h i-ra h? got the -^B HU'h. rilT to permit a dehn'e to ptoei , I which waa not ^B Htnr'ljr lr or.h rl The Mount La* conferrod no auoh an- ^B thoiiir on the Bpeaknr. I"- r flrnaaaa laid that tho Hn?n>",hy nermilliugapenkrr tf'e-aprcker to wander ft em'ho aiil.j .-t matter oft he debate, had llaeif aauetioned the nit jr. until It wna *oo late 'a err'it it withou' areim tg uufairnma to ^B thote who felt themaelri a aggri vt <! Vr-eraftBt" obi rratloe* from ?e?ernl -n tnheia, there tv?s u Icitt'l cry of ' dueatioti " _^^B 1 he Bruit a-aid the question waa on the appeal. ^I

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