Newspaper of The New York Herald, September 8, 1860, Page 2

Newspaper of The New York Herald dated September 8, 1860 Page 2
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1HE SEGEO SUFFRAGE QUESTIOE WILL THE PEOPLE SUTTION IT? ?Mloriral Acwnut of tie Subjrrt from the Adop tion of the Constitution of 1777. Opinions of StTci*] of the Most Distin guished Men of Mew York, Re queen, b or Bi-'owlog negroei equal auffrrge with While people IB ?*>? Which t? CSOM1 considerable OOU toevrn-y ? tfcJ? sute- u P?1-104*3"11* PRMbd upon Mm leg.r'ature, id uniformly a pott iha conventions held to emend the ccnstiiutkio. Although H hat bean decided aver end orwr egmn, Bad the delegated representatives or ttoe people, aa well as the peophi themefltvre, have ds NbertUly pasfed tdgmeot npeo the tattler. atUl the aholltloelBU ere not con teal, and will mot submit to the To Ice df the people, aad are again 'foreleg aa alteration of IbeST.le*. ion, ao that all nrgroee, lndtecrtmtnately any pcser-i eraal rtiffrafe with the wfeltt people of thta State. U L? aa admitted uect that on* of the polltloal parties amongst as la ready to eaftraoe* its folds ?very fhcthn aad lam. it bee for years held out induce ?all to all eomblafltlona, aad na partial eatress In thta PM la awing to tba lent oT having beau ready and willing la maka the moat solemn promisee to farther the eusc ltd contribute to the Interest O." any end ell factions which have arisen or may arise, the Legietetmra or IStT-fS panned resolutions in ecoordenoe with (he provislens of the oocstilutiW, emecdisg that Instrument so aa to giro sqiml suffrspe to the negroer of thta Stan. Tba party In power i<ad agreed that the negroes chotid have that pri vilege Of course, as soot as the people could ratify the proposed ametdmenla of the oonct lotion, this liberal party was to receive the benefit or fifty thousand black votes. The resolutions thus adept-d were seat to the eaecatlve chamber Instead of befog delivered lo the So crctary of -late. Re aegroaa, not aaapccting any treachery, confidently believed that the quest'.on would he submitted to the people at the general election in IMC Ray reeded content, having assurance that their whtto brethren would engineer the mettor rightly and Justly fcr than*. They remained quiet until late .ntbeseaseo, arhsa not discovering any notice in the. public prteis, tamsd bv authority, that suet a queatioa was to be nb mtoted to the people, they madj Inquiry at the nffioe of the Decretory of State Mr. Headley, then .?? cretary, cw.sed atee aad diligent gearib to be made through all tfeo de partments of the ofTloe; bet after overhauling all the denks, caaaa, drawers and pfoon boles in the office, moat deliberately and effectually, no traces of the miss ing doenm-nt could be found, ne-.her bad ;!ther af hSt clerk-: any recollection tost any paper er toe kind bad bcea received from the Login, latere. Acoeastloaa were then freely ma-Ie against the Sewetnry that be had purpoaely aiialald or iuppreaa ad tba resolutions, became be was well known to be de eMedly oppeeed to universal black voting. Re disap pointed negrnea joined with their sympathising white brethren to ringing toe matter through the streets Sf toe capital. doctor ?g that tba Secretary of State had suppressed th? paper which aelhorlmd the peo ple to vote upon black suffrage. Indignant, aaany honor able man aalurally would, and ought to be, be despatched his chief olerk, n company with ooe of the republican editors of Albany, to toe executive chamber in the r?pi tot, for the purpose of d.scovering. If possible, the miming deenment. Uev. King waa preeeat, but did not term to lake muck interest in the affair. He, too, oppuaed to un vrraal black, waa apparently cr.conorroed. However, after a oarefcl and protracted search. the mtaa tog paper waa discovered rnugly d?p<?lted la one of toe ptgeon holes of the enacntlve chamber. The boot was ?am placed on the other foot. Instead of denouncing Mr. ?acretary Headiry any- longer, the negroee and their anpecial frwato Ireely ap- logtzed for their baaty and WSjust rensure of lbs ttocrelary. Tbea (lev King waa assailed with <qual v rulence, dtorespeot and venom Many of the leading negroes of both colors went so far aa to accuse toe leader* of the republican party of a pre-n >? dilated mleetioa of defeating the matter. K was finally discovered that the resolutions were sent to ike executive ahasabrr by SamucLJI'. Allen, Clerk of the Senate. An saporisnood officer, as be war. it waa readily believed That be bad also a deeg:a id sending them to tbe eteou lira pigvoa bote#, whore they would slumber unmolested Ha conduct prevented s vote of toe peopio at that time, becacse before the papers were dleoovered the time bad ahpard in wbioh tbe Secretary of Stole was directed to Mane the aeceemryni.tier. Die blacks becoming enraged, apealy accused Rurkiw Weed with having purpoaely de Haft I them Threats were directly made that toe stored tbomaad colored vote* under the property quail ?oattoo. wbieh tad uaifbrmly boen cast la a body for ro pebloan andidates, aboild, tberefhro, bo withheld from that rarty Put before the Beat tleol.oa arrived, the aogiins became none .hated by a pledge from K U. Mnr paa, Iter candidate for itovernor, that III bey wo aid aup post b.m for the oft. w the pmpomd am end men I should bo foadeptod by the two Legislatures, If republican, daring hto terai of ad os. Ria pledge, together with the money eooempaajlng It, woo satisfactory, The negroee all voted tor Morgan, be was sleeted, be kept bte word like en tomnkli man aa be la. the renolctiaag were reedoptrd hp toe twe last legislatures, the dor iaeol was regularly fiy r???* la the of tbe Secretary of Stole, aad now the people are ootlfied legally that at tbe geaeral elect lie to November the declare are to decide whether they will ?? mutilate tbe coaffittotton aa to give all tbe rues way ne groee from Ike South, os their way to t'ans la oo tbe ua dergr- -ed railroad, Ike right to veto for all I be clril offi ?n of tbi* HUM ynrornineel IM a look lato Um Uiotory of U.4I MfTO rot lac C'Otro mj (Br B BOMl TW Irtt ??Mkliibnt f?r aad by tb* peopi* of U? H.a\* of Nov York voo la tbrytar IT" A raaroaUna aaeca^lod for that porpuo* 1a Um outage of K.egoloo, I iot*r eouaty, IB lb* Muutb of April of tbat ;tf 11 voo doriag Iho oorly part of our ?Una* fhr .cdepeadrao* fro* ?roal Br tout. At that IMfr* tber* vrro >? or aof-ro block* I* thudui* Tboy voro HMWt y ola***. and of eooror, a* II U Bow la lb* ?ouUltra Stale*, tboy oould aot repert to ilflOi tb* aMrttr* (VoocOmm. Tbor?(br? tb- fraaora of lb* flrat ooa ?llt it oo. bo'.ag B??Uy olorebatdoro oo van m tbMr ooa at it"* to at lb* tiato, nod* ao prorwioa la rotaUna to mtgm rotiEf. aot aatlctratfcf aoytb.e* of the k'ad. lb* ?onntT la which tb* trot noootitotioa viytatM ao<l orao adcplod W tbU ?A ooorrwlioo of rrprnceui rv of tbo "tot* of Vov York aovmlhled immediately after tb* DocMratw*. to toko lato eoaaidrratioo tbo exciting atoto of otolra TW Oaorratkm threw til tb* atyl* of "take, ay,'* ocd out> Muted a "Mot* y'veromeot." A commit boa woo oppniatod to prcpor* tb* draft cf a Slat* couatllo Iho aad rryot tbo oat* at ova* *ah**,>*ot pon>l tb* tallowing dlMlaguobfd patriot* r.-wntttoted that latpnr toot coataottto*. ota ?Mm ?roroa. Char loo Do Witt. Wil Hoa Door. Mm & Bobort, oba day, Robert R. luring ?too, OocTW-aoar Morrlt, Joba Borta Sentt, William nana, taotool Tor anat, Bmry Wioaor, AbrabaM YtUv ami Robtrt Yatos. tbo roport vaa nod* March. 1TTT lb* dor oo/oii oyoa N nomptnd ararty a Moatb. wb?a it am a^jftod a* tb* brat aovotltutKM of lb* PUtr of Nov Tart aad Maay of tb? vto?* mob of tb* ptaoat day ara M tb* Ml bolMf that wWrrrr proem* tb* peopla of IbU HUM May bar* Mad* ia art*, 'rtraOM and ami otbar MOdtota vblab atbot iboM. Ib?r* la a* mprortwooat la tb* eoaotitoti a of eooatltatoao olac* tb* daya of tb* Ro ?atotlou. Tb* atutv- of that Coo root kw ?,r* * baod f patrtcta. Tboy d*?*rmio?d to form at?b a mmitDtloa aa would *?tt)* lb* fbaodafoa* of ooctal ord*r aad improro < ad BMottrrat* tboMMdNioa of a paayl* then *rn?fi,a, loo tb* rrttdoM ?f okatloa tbcamolw. Bo party fkoiioc* aror* ?alvtad, ao artdah prxfodtc** war* otirrod op, aad ?a twtrant ptndaaod ?fa'not aaab other or aoy *ao ?Ma. Tbry'fof*b*r* mrtmlaatlflu, and rally roailood tbo unhra of tb* traot i?|inl m IboM It ? a Manor of proftaad MloaUb*B*ot that at aa aarty a period lb* pri* ?Mtaa of aim Uborty aad of repnblioaa pnmaol vera a* w*u oaAorotood. lb* pro^ttea la that aMMtitotiou ratattig a tb* ftootlr* Oaaoh:** vao tb* foUowta* ? floe. 1. TW every wv?le lababttoat of fet! a*e trbn 'bail bar* poranaal j rrotdrd vithla a* <4 tbi noaatioa of t' la rrn t. ? mm t in tw * inRVBHNf tf | ? ft*rb< id of tb* rab.* nf tvoaty poaade witbM Iba njl Uonoty, or bar* r**t*d ? irr >?*? at thereta <4 to* ye*- r aahi* or forty ?hillin*?, and rat** aad act aaliy paid tax <* In tb* Mot*. privlde* alwayt, that *t?tj prroo* who BOW la a if cmao of th* rttr ?>f Alnaay, a* who w*a Mad* * ?mum of tbo ota* of Nw York aa or i *fbra Iba Mar lo*atb day of Mrtobor M tb* yoar of oar twrd<>ae tbwauod ??*?*. hundred aad oorraty |,?, and thoil be aMuoJIy M.d otuot y rr*ideal la aatd cBW ftMpMMPatr. (bull b* M<t tiod to T?to Mr ropna* oMt roa la AoorMbiy a. A n IfUid piao* ?f rMldoaoe. rt * Iftk tyctdb jm C*S tfeat Ib? *xat? of tb* *1*^ i of Now York of twe jiy.four freeholders, la be dwo oat of the body of freeholders paaaaased of fires h Ida of the value of ooo hundred pounds over and above all debt-cbar,ed tbercoh." A subsequent lection pro vided ibat the Movcruor and I.iontcnanl Soveruor be chosen by the same claea of voter*. constitution remained In full force for the space of forty lour yeare. During that period slavery bad become aboil hed In this State, and every negro who "rented a tenenoep t of the yearly value of forty shillings" was, soon vi free, entitled to vote as well as white seen, be came there waa nothing In the constitution with regard to color. It eras mainly to re viae and correct the elective franchise, and avoid the evils then so alarmingly on the Increase, that the Ooo rent loo of 1821 waa organised. In that convention ant Stephen Van Rensselaer, James I Kent, Ambrose Spencer, Abraham Van Veoktaw, William W. Van Mass, EUaba Williams, Erastus Root, Samuel Nel son, James TaUmadge, Peter R. Livingston, Nathan San ford, PelerEbarpe, Ogdea Edwards, John Duar, Martin Van Jhiren, Rufua King, Daniel D. Tompkins, Samuel Young, Peter A. Jay, Jacob Sutherland, Nathaniel PWoher, and other distinguished statesmen and patrlou. Mr. Spencer, on taking his Beet in the Convention, made the following remarks:?"When, air, I found myself elected a member of tbla Convention, I held a solemn communion with my own heart and understanding. I oecwldered that a convention or the sages of the State, the immediate representatives of the peopln, was eeoa to take place, ke deliberate ?n and settle the fundamental principles of se rial order, to amend and Improve a constttctlon which had been founded by a baud or patriots?a constitution which bod triumphantly carried via through a sanguis .try revolution, and ooodwrted us to liberty sad Indepen dence?a constitution vhteh bet), for nearly half a cen tury, secured to us the bleedings of pvod government and wbolessane ?:d salutary lews. I determined in such n convention? met to deliberate on principles of government which were at secure to'.he pre sent age and to future generations,'to our and cor children's chCdren, the inestimable rights Of life, li berty and property?to iwpreee in myself every feeling calculated to dAtend tin grave and harmoa'ous consi deration of hi suhjectE to oomo under dircaanton. I naked myself bow I ought to sot, If any Intemperate ia dtvidaala, retard lota of what waa due to such an assess bly and to -such an occasion, etould endeavor to evcito party feeltrga, to stir op prejudice, and, for the purpece of carrying a favorite point, to produce excitement ?gainst other Indivldnais. My answer wen, that it vraa my solemn duty to forbear w.crimination, to oonB/c In tbc good tooee of this august body, to resist all attempts to indue? a decision from angry, revengeful or party ani mosities. I believed that even those who, to gratify the focliagc of the moment, ibog.d so for forget tbetr dcty as to endeavor to excite prejudices here, would themoelves crentvally deplore the employment of such meaes, and that -this Convention would rise superior to the passions and the follies of the day, la contem plating the objects of their meeting, and the scored ncse of the tract reposed In tbem. ? * * On my part, I come here determined to for bear, resolved to sappreas every amotion un friendly to cool, calm and patient lsveetlgatlun." Thus solemnly spoke the late Shier Justice Rjiencer when enter ing upon the duties of remodelling the constitution of 1777, established by the Revolutionary fathers. As the negroes bad acted under tats constitution down to 1821, an effort was mad* la that Cooventtoa to allow them equal suffrage wMb the whites. Mr. Ress, a dale gate from Oeeeeee county,opposed it. He said ?"lbit all men arc created free aad equal la|aamilm tree only in a state of nature. Ia society this gmmal equality la re strained for the pablte good. Oa this principle the blacks are excluded. They are required to perform no duty, bear so burthens. The blacks are, besides, a peculiar paople, unacquainted with civil liberty, and incapable of appreciating its bcaettts. We exclude aliens, we exclude minora, we exclude the better part (females), we exclude the aborigines, a people vastly more acute ttao the Af rican, end the only rightful proprietors of the soil, so l no complaints are mad*. Vat these are all bern free and e,ual. * ? ? The petition of the blaeks now on yoar table will. If lie prayer be acceded to, soon be fol lowed up by a demand to bo rtipveaeateil In thla ball by their own color. And are gentlemen prepared to go this length ? Ooald It be consistently refused, if you admitted tbem to aa equality ?1 til f Such privileges will only invito aa accumulation of thla population to oor Mate: whom, thanfn-e, In mercy to IbcmaelTee ltd to ourselves, we rmrbl to leave WKbout rtfbia wbicb tVy woull oar it inly abate." (ieoerai Root remarked thai "the black population of the Stat- baa an undoubted right to hold property, and they are protected to that ri{ht. Bat to a title of war, neither the colored man nor the alien can be required to take the Held. And whyt Becauae It haa not been dermed aafe to truat tbent. They are bound neither to defeod our ahorea, oor to soppeesa laeurrrcl.oa. and shall tbey be brought to the polla to troto for a oomataader In chief whom they are not bound to obey t ? ? ? Be bad Itnowa the time whea a few hundred negroes to the ally of New York, to the train of thoee who rode to ooaebea, and * bote boeta and thoee they ha l blarked, 'irtoally (are law to the Mate. Be had known the t me when that table majority, in a period of war aad danger, paralysed the arm of your government, aa 'or gan' Md and dtarlplined Oor pa,' that became power ful enough to defeat tome of the moet efficient aad aeceeeery mmenrm of your patriotic'' Colonel Young also dlammul the propriety of a'l owing negroes to vote. He tpoke la aaewer to a geatleman who advocated the right, aad tald ?' The gentleman who kit I juet eat down had adverted to the Iieciarettoa of lade pec leoce to prove that the blaeka are pomeeti-l of 'oer tola inalienable rights.' But U the right of voting a an tural rtghlf If ao, our laws are oppremtee and uojuet. A natural rtgbt la oae that la bora with no. No man la bom twenty one yearn old, aad, of oourae, a.I restraint npaa the Batumi right ef voting, darteg the period of nonage, la eeurpattaa aad tyranny. Thla mufe ? too artaae from mliiag eatoral with aoqulret righte. TV right of voting t- adventitious. It ? re? irted to only ee ? meana of eecur ng our natural rlghta. ? * * Are tbeaegroee permitted to a partkitpvlbm laiM.?I later rouree with the whiter* Are they elevate I jo p-ibllo iffieer Ne, efr. public eeetiwieat for bide It Title they know, end hear* they are prepared to eell their votes to the highest bidder see TV distinction ef color la well aadev'toed. It la t'.neeoeaaary to dlag-1lee It, aad we ought to shape our constitution an as to meet the pub lic erutlmeul. If that eawttmeut ehvuid altar; If IV time tbould ever arrive whea the African (ball be raised to IV level of IV white mad; when the d 1st tar tkms which now prevail Anil be don* away; when the colon shall Intermarry whea aw grova (ball be nvitod to your tabta. to alt by your tre or ride la your couch, it may Iheu be proper t. institute a new roavewtlea, aad remodel tV couatltu twm as as to cnafbrm to that Mate of society see If you admit the negroea, why earlede IV aborigines' They have never been eat laved Tbey were Bern free as Ute air tbey breathe That want of eetf respect w'dch rburnt tartars tV attioaa cannot V imputed to them see. The minds of tV bleofci are not comprise! to vote Tbey are too much degraded to estimate the value, or e tare lee with IJellty and l lancet I an that important r gbt It win V unsafe la tVtr bands Their veto would be at the rail of the richest purchaser, ee* ;r there is that eetntul inVreat right to vote which prune gentle men have urged, H ought to be further eitended. Is New Jersey fwnaiea were formerly allowed to vote, and on that principle you must admit orgs sawe m well aa as green to parti Ipato la the right of suffrage M.onre, toe. aad el km must en laagerbe eteladed bat the uera of pood feelings comanetmed la earnest."ho., he R-ifue King aleo loch (art la the debate Ho seemed pert wily teelmed to allow tV engross to vote, (til V remwke t ? "Ret I em el Use aasae time free to coalbae that I am folly alive to the dUBruttlea ef this qurettua, though I do not feet that IVr aaw preae upon us. I em net s ire hew e beck. an lees tarn free, may ber meaettiam. tVy rwaoot even V entcrwlleed, fbr naturahratme cm on>y be effected under W In we of tV I'm md "tolie, which limit 1 it to IV whites" Chief Jnetice Upewcer "I lay it downm a proposition, that m prweeding to amend IV oaat'tu- i tlm of thm MatelVOoaveatioa Vve a right to adopt all such awaanraa aa amy eiatsu te lbs md of ee roMog safety net Mppleem An I If we had wuhia ?ay, wita reference w vu* earn niu whatever we mar aecuee omeel res or our lb there of wi * rewpast to bring lag them tato IV dsgrsSad oowdltsw la which we dad them, yet we have the aaqnmitoeahir rtgbt, If tbey are toaapaMe of properly appreewt ug aad eaercBlag IV pvlvttageef safflage, to evotode tVm from It It wild In each cava V done te far em em. te sue country and to the on bom miliums wV may V (fleeted by oar de Pnrh wees (Be erdnwwe advanced by several ef tv d-etirgwBVd niemSere of tv Omventioe ef tatl. Ytey ere worthy a* our calm eovideretioa eve at hie late day. A amre able Body of m-n aereg aieewtMed m tbte <w my other fttoto fw the y rpeee of ftwui ng aa ergvle law. ef eetttfieHnff a amg er rharisr, Hue tome ormpnetar tVl Uu'mbn, Awwwget them wee* several of IV aenai anted aad d.e t nf-.idhed Jurists that thla ocualry ever bua<(ed of. k Their frme is cerved la 1st?sgaf enduring remenebrnnw, bo cone after theme I ill the legal men wbo coma'after theosVili ever study with bigb gralibeat ion the many vulumea of Judic al da eiatwii made by iboee wonderful men. Where ere the mm of ill i* day eland tog aa prominent aa Kent, Van Ntae, Spencer, and otbere of that time. Neither wee the Ooarenitin dedcient a the abilltiee ad sUits?hip. There wan Tompkins, Hanford, Root, Young, I.lviQKSton, Tallmadge, IMer, and hosts of others, whose names are familiar with noble and patriotic deeds. It cannot be doubted that this negro quest lor, was thro discussed in all 1U bearings with a aerutlr.y and ability, and a con sotentioesneas equal to say occasion oo reourd And It J doubted whether any other >,ody of mea. seaembled for a similar purpose, oould bave diaper <1 or the perries log and embarrassing question more m accordance Mm jus tloe, the rights of white people, and for the ber,etli of the negToee themselves, tkjm the decision made by the sages end worthies of the Convention of 1821. is the final conclusion arrived 'at, ambeaoed in the following section relating to qaal'.liceitoaa of voters, both white end black ? Art. II., ass. 1. Every male oitism of the age of twen ty-onu years, who shad bars been an Inhabitant or this Slate one year preceding any election, and for the last six mouths a r?Meat of tbe ton or conaty where he may oflhr his vote, and shall have, within tbe year next I prpceddsg Ute election, paid a tax to the Slate or couaty, I aseeesed upon his real or personal property; or shall by law se exempted Iron taxation , or, being armed and equipped according to law, ahall bave performed wi'lnn that year military duty in the militia of tb.s State; or who shall be exempted from per f'Tining im'.tary duty In ooniwqueuce of being a f reman tn any city, town or village in this State; and also every male citizen of the age of twenty one years, wbo Hhalrbeve Men for three years next preceding such eU-ctkxraa Inhabitant of thla State, and for the last year a resident In tbe town or eounty where he may oflor hi* vote, mi ahall bave been within tbe last year assessed to labor on the pobile highways, and shall bave performed the letter or pali an equivalent therefor according to law, .- b*if be entitled to vote In tbe town or ward in which he actually resides, and a< t elsewhere, for all officers that now ere, or hereafter may be elective by the people But no nan of color, unless he shall have been for three years a citizen of Ibis State, and for one year next prec ding any election (ball be srt**^ and possessed of a freehold estate of the value of two hundred and tfly dollars over and above all debts and incumbrances charged thereon, sad shall bavs bees actually ratsd and paid a tax there on , shall be entitled to vote at any such election; and no person of color sbaH be subject to direct Uxatlob, u iless he shall be seized end poser used of such real estate as aforesaid. as an Inducement to tbe blocks to become morn frugal. Industrious end enlightened, the Convention d<-ctared that ss many as ssenrod a freehold value of two hundred Slid fifty dollars should M entitled to tbe exercise jf suf frege. Those tnaluded in Iks old constitution as paying taxes or bones rent were not Included, end hare not voted since that period?searly half a century. Tho people adopted that constitution as a whole, no attempt being made in the Convention or out of it to submit tbe negro suffrage question separate from the rest of the work.- No attempt wee ever made, during tbe wbnle tunc of the existence of tho constitution oC 1821, to alter or smend It in any shape giving the negroes any further extent'ed right to the ballot box. They appeared satis Bed with their condition, and would cot at thla day ank for further nrirtlegea, If not guaded on by a political party which boom to be beaeftttad by their votes There Is not the least blame to be attached to the negroes them selvev. As a body they know that It is an Impossibility to be placed upon a too I ?! or political oqualily wrtn ibt whites. They are sensible of their degialatlon, and consequent inferiority In a social position, and are perfectly content with their condition as assigned in tbe order of nature. The blacbe, sa a class, do not ottrnde tnemoolvas upon tbe society *of tbe whites, de not affect to amlmllate with a d Cerent order of creation from themselves, desire no social equality, nor demand the right of voting, occu pying pwtollc offices, enjoying political distinctions equil with tbe Anglo Saxon rsss. The thinking, redacting por tion of them are htppy and oontent is tbsir pr?en; posi tion, as house servants, bote) waiters ostlers, barbers, booth lacks, Ac., he Faoalietsm alone, encouraged aod maintained by political demagogues and ambitious mal contents, keeps alive the excitement of universal negro suffrage t'poo tbe assembling of the Convention of Itlg, tbe abolitionists In that body again undertook to destroy that laudable Irature which declared what portion of the nrgro race were entitled to suffrage. Tbey endeavored to open the door and allow story negro In tho State, or who might come In or pass through Ute State, to participate in lbs oboios of our roVrs squally with wblts citizens Whan the committee having the subject In charge mads their report upon the question who should be entitled to the exercise of suf frags, me blacks were entirety excluded. That commit tea conented of Mr. Bouck of r'vhoharie, Mr Gardner of Niagara, Mr. J. A. Kennedy of New York, Mr. Oodd of Washington, Mr. Dorian of Greene, Mr. Wood of Rock land, sad Mr. E. BunliecUm of Ootids. The oommlllne reported the following additional sect ion which i bay re commended to be submitted te the people separately from the other provisions of the constitution, viz.? " Cb?red male citizens pose easing the qusligcallona required by the first section of kta article shall also bava the right to vole for ail slhoers that now are or brrfatlor may bo elective by the people " It la proper to Stale that Mr. Dorian submitted * mino rity report, allowing " every male citizen" to vote. Tba subject remained on the table of tho OmvoaUon from July 18, when tho report was mads, until Urn 80th day of September?some seventy Bve days. This gave all the members ample time end opportunity to oooaull with tbair constituents and to reflect tijo the question them te'tes. t poo lak'og up the sobieofo s motion was nmde to strike out the word " whits" la the first section of the repurt. This brought np tbe whole matter relating to negro suffrage. Mr. \t .top. Tbylor, of Onondaga, was lu favor of sub muting the quest loi; separately to tbe people He roared that if free negro suffrage was Incorporated la the anxnded const H it Ion, and the people's vote taken upon It aa a whole, it would jeopardize tbe entire work which tbe Gnnvrntkm bad labored so ladastriowalf to perfeov Mr Koreell aald, 'Tor ooo, be know that atno- tooths of lb" people in Bt lawreoce county? aboliiioatets sad all were opposed i? tbe admission of tbe negroes to lbs right of suffrage. They believed our own white race wore tbe only unrs capable of self govern meat, that if the negroes sb? '.id be admitted, our republic would sono be degraded to a level with thoe of Msxlcn sad hsqfife Ameriea. Ho felt bound, an representing the coostltueney of da Lew reoce. to say to this moo, 'we anooot admit you to be velars; If as, wo must admit von to no equal neat with as latbejnry box, end to bold office1 H: agreed m Una perfoctty with bis einaWuan? This was use only taaao n Ht. Inwreoce at tbe Convention vie. fun. He was in irrrosated nuon lbs subject, sod informed lb em ex Kly that he should vote against suffrage to lbs negro mtod that thin wan lbs express, .n of a prejulio* It wnn but tbe sipi males at the srat neat of tbe At mighty, who had orditne.1 the colored man to be lamrier to tbe free white roes." Mr f. A. k?e ?My, of Now York (sow lbs efficient Soporlatsn dent of U?New T 'rk Poiico?at that lime a democrat), also strongly protested against It. Il^ald. among other remarks, that "Rights were tmwsTioos from nature, bom with kirn to whom they bsfongsd, sad alienable on ly for oflknees agaiuel society, aod this under all forms of government. Bat, on the contrary, prlv'.lcean wars ne quired?ennvtet Ion ally or by tbe grant of lbs r>vsralsg power. When long P"?rased, tbey are enmetiaa? dp nnmiasltd civil rights, but they never bec-aac natural lasd. In consider tog s qu?linn of Una kind, fuUof ah street ions, It was, to any the least, disiagenaow to oodan vnr to confound nntcrsl rights with elvU fraaohtsm Rw.eld It be eoneedeil that the elective suffrage Is not s Iranchlso, bah s nntnral right, to whom would it be leas' and who would be entitled to lis exorcise' Not male cltisew of matare age and divers colors only No, sir. natural rights rsoognlas so mom distinction n ago or sex than in color or condition Nar d d thsy stop with on* woman sad children, bat fblrly and bsawUyosr rird i ct, would SSteod lbs sxrreNe in every taumna be lag wbo might happen to be <? our soil oe aa alert ion day, la the asms manner la which they would be antltled Is their personal liberty or the aajaymwl at lllh. ? ? ? ? The etanlJro frw chlss was s privilege, s franchise, a civil right, and not a natural right, and tbe governing power might limit, restrict or est?d the einrrlse of ll is such mas asr aa might totbemseem wise and proper, and was la duty bound to bestow It only on such an would, la the esrrc?a of It, best aoMwvs lbs objects of good govern meat Ibow psrsiss bavtsg tba onatrol sod rmmtibi llty at gnvsmmmt rest tag upon tbsm had (tie sols right to determine m their discretion wbo sboald participate with tbmn m this exercise. ? ? ? e ? But what ww the grans prop.sal submitted for oar eowtdsra that Nothing tans than to permit all wbo hoar lbs name sad llksnrts of man In participate is our inevt'mable prt v .lrgeo To permit the I lb tuples ra* to batSM* aa In portent frsetlos of the govtrsiag power of the Male. To allow that man, lbs fhrtbast rentzred from w la aympn thy and rsmtlenobip of ail lsV> which tbe human family wusdlvidad, to bsenae s parttclpaat id reversing, Wt ibsmnslvas, but us. Nate's rvrotted at tbe prof?al " Mr. John H Heat, af Now York, rsndersdhis objectiow Ha mild ?e'lhey forget that negro? am ailsw sllsni. net by merv MMt of fbrvign birth, sot because Ihey spoke a different language, o?from any petty diet inn una that n Ibw years' onasuristian might obliterate, but by tie brand diet?Stioa of mean?a distinction that neither ed east lea, nor latere?ww, nor time ooald remove?a d toil act?a that mnst separate our cbildrm from their ahl?rea for Wo might close our aysS In a fit of wa, sad try to dream their wool out of enrl, but car dream dose tbem a* gooi Thsy knew and fob all the while (that M, all mar ii?rem) Umt thsy wars negro? and aliens by the act sf God, and lb err was no retwfff. The greatest injury that say man could la AM span his follow was to plane him la a Mm sad ua natural position?Is tempt hm ov> a pe'b which he could set travel, a sphere sot bis own, to mduos him la? a war agmiam hh inevitablr deetmy, and than de stray his sowars of usefulness sad his chances of happi ness together, b his ndgmeat. oar aagmm had thus bssa lajsred by their fries?s " Mr Bar? J. Mow. at Erie, aim remoastrstsd In a spssi k i spli? with argument and fhct. Ws nanteaesn leaps or two. "Slavery prevailed is the Vafoa. W# could not overlook that rs-t ;f wr?ui| Hnwevsr de sirous ws might be to relieve ou real vet of tba eurse sad awful arr orge of tnan?sad so man w I be more willing to read? Ms atd to svmtbsun II than mysatf?wa mast srtieiwlsdgs that IteslstM; wessqld aot arotd not?a IV. Tat, sappese Kentucky Sboald ah dish s?very, and should |am tbe mrw stringent law w bad been pssnad la Oh- forbidding a residence within lbs limits at thm Ma?to tbe frm Moved man, what weald he the r.isseqees- ? this Si tie psrt-o-rly ? Umt part (the westers portion) from which be came* Tbey WIS- bare an ?valan. he of men derated is s-v ery, roastsg be? to ?N m bow ? govern. And woeld It be wlw to lavlte the seresa?a ? Sorb a pupa latum, allogetbsr the worvt that enaM ?one amnog ?? It would be daugerom ? the best latersn? of the people in do an. The hrtUrti fsrorn meet had tavl?d tba oooee-tuu if n't t pops 1st foe ? I- roVwy, aid M bad thus brought into Canada a worth bm peps?Hps-a d?raV i clam of man. sad the In habitants sf that soon try sulk-re 1 morally ant ons-l'y fro? thai rlroetasUfue oases ggtend this right, and we bsrume tbe r?eri .fr ft* this pnp-ilatva fr?n ib? itrulbera Ms tea ? be foreM is?, fhey w?It pass over no from tbe froeth and tba V wV Ws m at ue tba reriproola af men rntwd la b rndag*. who would make i or per eromrv in fr?gem " Tie lis?Inn nrroietal several days Many able tpevrhrs were delivered by tbe foad?f ? 'n Urol Vxlv. finally the saffrage qmetlon ww dltpeaal of by iftylhig tbe section m It now ?tauds Is ^ oegrs property qualtfiesMon. Ir r nlve the frlendiof the uegrean o>'j^tuu?'uieJTui'e naw tlon, tbe Conveatlen submi' ^^" roUuwlM>- ' Resolved, That at the r -?*??? earn* time when electo^Soi he utm for the adoption at ^ amended constitution, the addi- I tional amendment m "J, word, ^rin, - ' .jw.i ?* citiarua pueaoeatng tho qualiffcatlona re quired t>y ITj tint section of the second article of the con isUtutloii 0ther than the property qualification, shall base Ithe rir at to vote for all oitioers that now are or hereafter I may be elective by the people, after the brat day of Jaoo lai-y, 114T," I ?ahali be separately sobmitted to the electors of thia I State for adoption or reject ion, bo. I The vote stood In htvor of negro suffrage, 86,806; against I It, 228 834?being a majority of nearly 138,000. The vote on I Governor the same year was ono hundred thousand great lor, showing that number of voters being Indifferent to tho I negro question. The omphalic decision thus made was I deemed dual, fin 1868, however, the abolition Iota, who ? desired the negro voters, the lawyers, who disliked the I I present mode of elect ing judicial odicers, and I all others unfriendly to the provisions of the I constitution, prevailed upon the Legislature to enact a I I law submltticg to the people the propriety of calling a I constitutional oonventlon. This was only after It bad I been in toroe less than twelva years. The rote declared I that the people were not yet prepared for a general dis I ruption of the organic law. This failure caused the negro I suffrage agitation to be renewed, anil, consequently, the I people are new again called upon to decide the question I over again whether they will reduce themselves down to I the level and degradation of the blaofes. At the next No I vember election the qualified voters?some ffve hundred I thousand white men?are called upon to sustain or strike I out rrom the constitution these words ? I "But no man of color, unless he shall have been for I three years a citizen of this State, and for ons year next I preceding any election shall have been seised and poa I seased of a freehold estate of the value of two hundred I and fifty dollars over and above all debts and cecum I branc< s charged thereon, and ahall have been sotaslly I rated and paid tax threeon, shall be entitled to a vote at I such election: and bo person of color shall be subject to I direct taxation unless be shall bo aetaed and piixxmsiil of I I such real estate m afireaaid." I We have thus presented a bit '.cry of thia matter from I Its origin, and, in trutb^yven details pertaining thereto I anterior to the time wnun the people became troubled I about negro suffrage. There are now some fifty thou I sand negroes In this State, tea thousand or whom I I wosld become equal voters with the whiles should I the above proposition prevail. Admit such an India I criminate class of voters, and wbaA will be the conse I queucef The next demand will be to hold oflloe, to I I perform jury duty, to labo seals in the churches, leglsla I tive halls and eotiru of juatioo?1n truth to be recognized I In ail plawn equal with the whites. They are a elate of I men more widely separated from us than any otaer I race on the globe, and who cannot become naturalised by I any flat "f law or lapse of time. To permit them to volo I would place ourselves upon a par with tnem. It was re I marked by a member or the Convention of 1846, that if I we allow negroes to vote In this State there will be a I yearly avalanche from the Southern States of voters edu I cated In slavery, who would undertake to teach us free | I dom. Take a view or our oonitentiory and other prisons. I look Into our criminal courts; take a survey of Cow Bay, I Corlear*s Book and the Five Points in this city, where I are oenstantly discovered the most diseolute, drunken, I depraved specimens of black humanity la the I country, and then rvfieot for a single ia I slant whether they are the persons who are qualified I to chooM our rulers, and upon the merits of I candidates for public offioe. To the people of tne I State of New York this question of noiversal nigro suf I frage Is cne wblcb comes home directly and personally to I every individual while men, woman and child In the State I The bugbear of 8oulhorn seceeaion. of diseelvlog the I Union, la nuly aoanded In the ears of the weak and tenet I tlve fbr political effect; but tats momentous local question I of admltlibg the African race apon an eqasllty, politically, I wKb the Anglo Saxon, Is a real, meenh.g proposition, en I forced njon tbe people of thta Slate with all the I power of talent, tbe unbounded ambition of dls I appointed demagogues, and the irresistible Influence I of -money. Those fifty thousand negro vote* are worth I a mint of gold. With them, how comparatively I easy It would be to Oil the legtaUtive balls at Albany with I bodies of plundering scoundrels, equally pr-fligate and ? corrupt at were the notorious assemblage of lost winter. A| party with thia solid, pre arranged capital in votes to de pend upon, would possess the power to control ail legists tion. fill all the public offices, dispense Its patronage, and ?upport an influential lobby feraUnoet any length of time. Aside from all this, ws desire to submit the question to our readers and to the people throughout the entire State wh< ther the* are willing that this annual attempt at con stitution tinkering shall loager oouttauef Scarcely a see Dion of the letislature occurs but some persoae thrust propositions forward for certsta alterations In the rrgantc law. We say let the constitution stand an our Magna Charts It la now only fourteen years since Ms adoption. It la too soon to oommeooe Ma mutilation. Let It remain aa the chart by which the ship of State ahall be guided mill a period of time ahall arrive when the excitements of the present day, tho unhallowed paaslous of them precarious times, have sub aided. When oar citizens are nu longer entwined with the fbnatieism of aboiWonlem, liaise law Mm. Fourier ism, free loveiam, socialism, spiritual I?, and every ether species of dsmagnsm i ws when eaisans and similder ia pt era ateaees sad sober mtsdcdseM again pt wall hi theeom munity, and .nee became bosest, cool sad deliberate enough U> legislate without bribery, to dettberate with out prejudice and peeee n. and decide with impartiality, justice, uprightness and vlrtua?then, and aot until thea, let a Ocnveiillon be assembled to disease and decide upoa tbe propr1?ty of foture amend menu I uttl that time arrises, lot the negro suOVage rema n whore the people have again and again decided It should be. Sewi froui VtBMada. OVHi MAJUCAIBO OOBaadruKDIKCn. Mdaacaaa, Auguet 4. isao 1%* Jfiynrw1 Ball? The fthraU ml Mtrsdm?Alarm tn J/'iracmUio?(JanJitinn 1/ Trmd*?Military MonrmtmU A Put .Vippevtm (V Bk)?7"*? Stgror*?JM| Layidm item?/ngiruMunenu of Bmuk 9*ly it? Thmmdar Storm, 4c., 4c. What can you expect to bear from this dlatrauted country bat Um too familiar tola of 1 maw In allot and r<>bber j f TMmnUn word eaaa might ba woeaa, and variety la at ail ttoN a rallaf. There la a oar la la alaa ' llsity la human aatore, and a wholesome toadeoey to re booal. la the day* wbaa la flll4?i eat enthroned to iba pablie plaoea tad drank the oldest blood m fronoe, tba doomed rlctlrnt la Uie Onaclargerte and La Force bad tbatr ball* aad Taudevtfiea, tad furgot tola to tba feed nations of the dance 80 we hare, aurroaadad by dangers aad ? tokened by frtgbtfhl toiea aad aceoea of blood, aaa manage to drive a ray oare aad apprebenaioo. A law Dsgbta siac* the .-tenors Jala Municipal gave a ban, whioh waaqaltoaa elegant aftolr, bat not aooaoHolly from atnel aOatra of tba kind. There waa Iba naval aa nmbtoga of youth aad baaoly, "and eyee laofeod lava," all weal marry," ba. Perbya the alagto point of from your part of tba oooatry, who eaibawbed oar Cash Mwtblea by dasctsg Iba "Mallor'a Hornpipe ?? ft !? oaly wltbm a vary abort period uu Ihtaqalot Iowa baa bean dwturbed by altbar to tba purl lea who are I'-idtpalaLaf aad niinng ibelr country I t tbe Slat to July vitt fnurleen leys ago, bja'aem waa aalaler rupied, and every one apoka with pride to paaoaftal Ma racnlbo (to the! mora** a partr to tetania, nadar the toad to one Araafanen, toot pwaamlja to Martda aad pan of Truitllo, and alarm artaad upon ovary one ban, effecting bnaiaaaa maMrtally, ao that for aaato lima to Ma oar iBipmce'i to euftoe will bo bat smell The federal finest Maridt aad TruiUio la mtimatod at aaiae 1AM men, wbleb la van ocma.denbty larger Ibaa nay gorerameat forov la tola evtghbachuod Hare, far m ?uaav, we eaaaot mooter ?oo, aad are onmtoniy mercy to any party that might abooaa to walk to. to aot a Mala la Vaaetoala mora aaprtoaate-l iba naprnterto.1 Ik We beard yretard ty thai a party to about JM fodaruta were beaten at Laa Ptodrae, bat tack Boatings amount to noth'ng: the fbltawa (Imply ran away, to raappaar aa tba neit npportoetty. Ore Andrada to makiag preparatl->aa 10 attack Her Ida. an I If tba troops aa both atdaaare only balfaa reaaialaaa thaw re#pecure toadmi, ya may at CM to bear of >iette a bulla A pM to lata lb la to wa just boaa detected aad fro mind. A tow watto maa with tbrva nr four ronre to alggara, from Iba otbar b_ of the lake, wen to take ua by eurpnw. bat tba Qonraor rtotioaad forty maa * were caught. Tba '"*1 __ Tba loader waa aaptorad, wbs premised to tab all the aflbir If they wnntd not abnal bun Tba real crtml nala aad laaitoatora an, to aoarie, at torn ? Newt baa Van received that tba Mala to Oen baa hntotod the Moral flag Kver aiaoo the liberation of tba Htoaka by Manage* la ISM they have glee* a treat deal to trouble. They now claim all tba right* to whit**, aad bnaat that they In tend na* day to gnvara the cuatry la a manaer to aaH them solves lb wreag or taeall a white panta to a cardinal virtue with Ibim. Tat, any what we wmi ekowl feme gee. It to aa undoubted Tact lb it conusor-.- and agrieul ture wan more prosperoaa under bto than the preaaal mtoaraMt admlatotralloa Tba laat Oongruaa did a* goad aad ? great deal I barm, *nd t would ban^^M^^M better If M bad ?? dnabta what waa never met. Iba* toted tba plaatara right, aad raised the report datyea at. if the mombaata bad act amda ad rawer* to lb* grower*, and thaa amtotod 1* ahtp. littla r abuaa la ?Id have ben exported Another vrered n every potty Judge to arreei any to heal Hi ty to the gwmomeol M^m suapfcted to heatHlty to the geiwameat It 'to a danger ooa, tyranaloal aad etcj id mim ira. Mot long flaoe. Mr. Rierhaa, ?* Onaanl I?I to bar RrlUeak M^eaty waa imprtonaad la a womnt ail *? the man aoaptrtoa MM Mi - tba Mr - to betag ?lire ted toward* lb* federal*. Nothing was proved (garnet hire, aad ba waa liberated. It* baa goa* to England to look fer iiulima. Another oeaa to that to Mr. Maay, British VwaQnaaal at inert* CbbaWo, who w kept to yitoan three mnntba aad waa tbn liberated. Tbaee. aad at leaM a hundred other* amiiarly treated, bavu claim* (garnet the gevan went, wbtsh WIN nana* a good deal to tree Me and ex pewae to lb* republic Than an a few Amor wan ctatam (garnet tba government, which might be aettlad If W* ' ad lb* r'ght v n-1 to maa tv toke th-m la lait evnaln^w* war* vtoltod by a meal torrtSc thus der (torm- Tba electrta Held struck a email aebooaar with amae traapa oa board, killing tbn* aad tajariag (boot e daara mhorn. All the maaketa. which ware kmdrd, war* discharged, at d 00* poor fallow loot bto lit* la Ik to way. MiregaU'i OHira. Before Rdward 0. Wmt, Surrogate. WW nf Prmift Our?<(.?The teatator, wboaa win MB ( 1 admitted to probate yesterday, died a bachelor, aad waa fbr maay y? ira a prominent aad wealthy New Turk mar abaai. Mia will dbtribntr* all bto property,eaoatauag of a Vlu#bto farm la Otito aad auadry abarea la eartowa I oompdbtr* la Ibto city, among hia nearret retodtvoa. R* had a ilfe intmraacr policy amounting to dltona on him , ie?f, wbtob be bene tafia to hto mother Tba win deed ?at make mention to aay yeramal properly. T1X HHP SEA TELEGRAPH LI1E8. The Proteble Failure tt Deep Sea Linee-Kene ?i Them at Work?TWegraphic Communica tion with India- Interesting Debate in the British Parliament, 4c., 4c., 4c, In ice House of Lor4s on the ltth Lord Srsxixr, of Aidsrley, rose to pat oeruln questions to the Under Secretary for Foreign Affslrs relallre to the present stats Of the telegraphic communication with India; bat bis ob servations were addressed in so low a tone that only the general purport could he gathered la the gallery. Ho was understood to complain that In coosequenoe of the failure of the various schemes put (brward ws were real* ly In a worst position than two er three years ago to wards attaining the object In view. The first scheme was for a 11ns from Constantinople to Alexandria, thaaoe by the Red Sea by Sues to Adm, and so on to Bombay. TUvord* Jtu the government undertook to grant 1% per sen! upon a capital of from ?800.000 <0 XI ,000,000, without adding the condition Oft it should be tuccneful, ?** present that line was completely broken up and destroyed. There was another line projected at lbs same Urns, which was to he carried out by another company, under the auspices of the Turkish government, and this was to proceed from Constantinople across Asia Minor to Brouaaa. But that this 11ns would ever be com pleted they had no satisfactory aasuranas, or that any line involving aay great laeglh of ocean ca ble would be successful after the Ihllure of the Atlantic telegraph. But be understood there was a scheme ret o i foot, towards which a subsidy of ?3,900 was to bs granted, for a 11ns of communication through the Austrian com in ions to tbo Mediterranean and by way of Oorfo to Alexandria. This line waa objectionable on the ground thai, as it would pass through Austrian and Italian terri tory , it would sot be under our own control. There was another scheme which had been fitvorabiy entertained by the late government, of a direct submarine line from Fal mouth to Gibraltar, which, In the event of war, would undoubtedly be the best line of communication. He had lately sees a proposition to divert the cable prepared for this purpose to carrying through a communication be tween Rangoon and Singapore at the Joint expense of the Indian and Imperial governments. He wished to know whether such a project waa In contemplation ? The Turkish line bad failed?the Austrian line had foiled?the direct line of communialien via Gibraltar had not been carried out, and there was do communication to Malta on the one band except through Sicily, or bo Corfu on the other. He wtebed therefore to know what was the state of the negotiation* with the Turkish government, and what progress had been made towards establishing an ef Sclent telegraphic communication between this country and India. Lord WoMCflot-Hs entirely ooocurred with his noble friend In the importance of establishing an efficient lias of telegraphic communication with India, and regretted that the eflbrta hitherto .made with that object bad not been successful. As regarded the Rod Sea line, be re gretted that, after the cable bad bean laid down from dues In Aden on the one side, and to Broussa on the other, it would not wotie, and notwithstanding all the efforts that had ban mod- there was no probability -4 'A J line ever be imp carried out at an effective meant at communication As to the alternative line through Asia Minor, referred to by hie noble friend, that was in a more favorable position. The Turktah government bad undertaken it by the aid of Ehgliab engineers engaged for the purpose, and Had sue oreded in establishing it a great part of the wty, and the Turkish government were now in communication with her Maj'Ht) '? government for continuing that line to India. The Indian government, on lta part, was ready to un dertake the submarine portion of the Hue, and thsre was reason to believe, therefore, that the result of thr negotiations between the two governments would be that that line would be carried out. It was not stat ed whether this would be carried out as a sea line across to India or by land, but, from the unsuccessful issue in the case of the Atlantic, the Red Son, sad other subma rine telepraphs, be Imagined it would bo a land Una, though I hey were not at all Ignorant of tbo immense dif tlculties of carrying a land Una through Turkey In cons# quence of the disturbed stale of the country. With re gard to the Mediterranean telegraph, it wet true that the only means or oommunioatl >n with Malta at present was through Busily. The etaU of that lino waa this. A sub sidy of ?900 a pear bad been graatod fur a cable to be laid down between Oagltnri and Malls on the one side,sad from Malta and Corfu an falling. This had eontlsuad to work for a time. The cable had, however, continually foiled, end as the oompaay were net In funds to supply a now anMOj application for permission to establish s fine through Sicily to Malm and through Italy to Corfu, and n subsidy was asked for whtia the line continued to work It being thought noosesary that there romofitoAltoo, ig a subsidy Oorfa, and a the purpose should he some line of oommuwiaattso, the govornssent thought it right to afford some encouragement to this proposal by granting a subsidy The other part of the lino was by Raguss, Corfu, and so on to Aiexaa drln. Tbo ooo vast too for the purpose was signed lost Bg, and the paper* laid before parliament, sbowlag inears by which It was proponed to construct the line, end the course It was to take, partly through the Austrian dominions, but allliougb tbsl arrargemeot was coacludod In April, last year, ao progress had as yet been mads to wards ouoetrocling the line, ead for this reason, that it was necessary lo get a firman from the Turkish govern ment to las ! the rable at A'eiandr.a, an 1 on an applies liuo being made to Constantinople for that purifies, the answer given was that the Messrs. Newell had bad eon coded to tnesn tbo exclusive right to land a telegraphic cable at Alexandria. Strong remonstrances were made by the Foreign 'KB -e to the Turkish government on the subject. end it had taken until the present year to over come the difficulty. But lately a oon root loo had been signed by Tuikey wllo the Austrian government and our scivea, giving permission to lend the cable But at the list moment, three or four days ago, a eoaamunica Uoa bad been rewired to the effect that the state of things bad changed altogtthvr. and that no com pany won Id undertake to emke the telegraph on the terms end romllUoor staled in the contract. That cemmuoieallra had not yet been considered by bar Msjeety '? government. but be could assure Ibe House that before any mw erraj-gementa were entered into leas favorable lo this omuitry, they would maturely and calmly consider the whole qoentb* of telegraphic e wnmuilcatioa by the Mediterranean with the Beat In reference lo the to line attempted by l be late gov era men t from F. Gibraltar, be ailte agreed that It would bo adi to England ss bomg independent of any foreign control still it would Invoice tbo lues of an eeormout length of cable if that cable should foil, of which take appealed In be too greet a probability It win thought before taking any decided stop in the metier, It was desirable that for tber experiments should be made, and a onmmtaaluii et eminent engineers, presided over by the MM Mr. R Sto pheosne, waa appointed for that purpose Numerous ax per in, rata were made accordingly, and mush interesting information wee collected, hut at present the report was not to s fit stele to bo brought under the consideration of the government. At the sum# tuns her Majesty's ro vernmeut had not shea dosed the plan If they found It could brsocoteafniiy carried out. Under there circum stances it wss considered whether some use might sot be made of th cable, ead after semmuaiceiing with the la diss govern raw t It was thought advisable to employ It la nf own s line beiwreo dtogxpore and ftaagoon. thus ng a more ready oomreunioaltoa between India and China?a matter at too prearal mereeel of ooesldwrehte lore Maaiar. of AMortey, In replying. bo isderetood the French go vers meat wore roust dor lag the propriety of mabiag a lino of telegraph from Algiers, through Tualo and Ttipnlt, and along the onset of Africa to Egypt and th wee well worthy aausnlenitou wnathsr It would b* depiruble on tbo sort of the bgMsh govern ment to make a line froa Malta lo Tripoli, so as to form a i-r.prct.on with ibe French Una. The noble lord had eawered all his qoeatma* aaMMbatarily, and bt hoped, upon th? whole, that there wes reeae prospect of an at tempt be lag made to complete there commas teas ions which wore so arerutlal is the heal Interests both of this oo ntry sad India. Lord Reran a lb said that, In a military point of view, ?s lines were not of the advantage sup rrernmeat should eoret l?r for hr k ws prostbls to dwtroy them in the sans of war breaking out. Tbo tret object of as enemy would be to destroy tbo wires In cnuareUoe with our fortreasrs la the Meditsrruassa, and probably an overload eommaa tret Ion through the territories of our seignbore with whom ws w?re lilceljr to be on friendly terms would re pre* re Me to n enhmwrtwe Mediterranean line The gneoremrel were giving gua rantees to eompaatre for hu tag dews dosp sea telegraphs, lbs auneaas of whiab was doubtful; and if wire* ware laid down la ehnllnw water they snuld real y he destroyed by OV MRP MA TRLReturn*. [from ?>? taadoa nbari mi1, At^iaai U ) 1Vi*?pW? fatlnrr and abaadoataaet of tha i?|rut ha* tor a Mhm throw* ? gloow ow U te.ryraph ha* for ? time lb: own ? gloom tre'l of HtlM tati* |)l Imo 1*Vr? u at Ml ***f ?t Umt tf any ItmiffA that it at mart. Taa Bad Mr Wail at>> la owt * la aM of ordrr; tha Malta and CbgUtal Mm, of abwat SRO auk* la taagtb, baa Iflaa boar interrnptad; tbr Maditari ?raa Ritaaaton TVIngraph Omr aad llnafh ibr Modi tar11 ?raa ICrta?Tin TVIegraph I p?y ara abnat to aaka aa atwyt to rat 11 in ft amrtM ?wdar, thry contoaa that N M bopnliwaiy go?, aad IM tbay artuM not make tb? attampt If It wora sot that tbay mar* enmpellrd to d< no by rtruaa of tba ifmaaat oa. tvHMtfea f?i|iaaj aad tha goraramaat. Tba Itoa to Aigtara baa baaa abaad?d, tba cable from Malta to Cbrto Ran atao gear tha way ?f tta rritiataauu; tbat fraaa Adaa to Koraoobte naa onatrlbatod nothing top ? Uato paat to If atorfc of our waaklf < a. Bat. wtM ft thaaa (allaraa, thara la atlli bopr tor ibnSturn. Bai ? am rxpadltloa aut la tba North ARtaatte to Mtotwo m whrthnr it la araa'teahto to lay a rr Mutator cabtataiBarim Denmark and AitorMa, by way at MaVhtwe Iddbr. laalaad, Ore?toad, aad La brador ttow tor toe Ww floating or (tad may adbnt tha <? ban ma of anaaaaa la a nyaa which wa aball baaa aa i y|m?aa?M nf Mar map mora oa tba ratura at tba Bolw?g aatf Ma fox fr to U aa draary latitadaa. Tbaa, , there in a Had to br laid bet at tha rtok at tha yararnaianl waa nrlg toa'ty i?aotoetarad to be laid tmtaraaa aad O braltar with a wtaw to tta totora itlwtn to Malta, an m to altord to tbM enaatry aa ladayaatowt atoaaa of rx.mmaatcatloa with oar mi liary aattl anrta?detattant m tba raad la ladia It to aaid to hara baaa anatrootod with gBtoaaare, aad an exr*wao ha* harm aparad to laaure pe?r?rt ladatattaa aad to ypawlda ayataat rwka of Ibllara fa tba Madltarraaaao, too, aetlre toantona ara batof ma.'* to ripply tba laaaaa which bam alraady occurred The ftem-h wvrerwtoent bar* a?trwrtod with aa Rag>'?b fir a It manufacture a rabla to ba laid front Toulon to A1 ? ton, ib tha ylaaa af lb* oar yrrrlnaely laid f-ma tbr < talacd of Itordtata to Dnma, aad a Breach frigate bar lunt i arrive-' la tha Hrrary to take tbr anil ?a boarl. A abort I Una ha> baaa raoently laid between Malta aad Rally, wbtab, wtth anion omaatoaal interruption*. hw> nnatlaard . to ba to an rffl> i?wl Mate Aa Iba iton baa beeo wholly ta h rwptad Wtwe? Malta aad Onrfh, a proj.wal baa baaa i ?i' mittrd to tha pavarMMHrt te lay a abort Hao from win ato, ah tbo rn*trra rrtrrtolty of far;?a, aenwa to f>p ii, aad thud to aflbrd tb* mean* ?f t. i-gr<ph!c no?. <a< akmt'na be'.wern IU U aad ftorfu by way of Naplea tad fieily. Th* tubman a* ynrttoa* ara betwaaa Malta aau Scltjr, newto tha Rratto of Mtm j>?. aad flraa tha Ne^pohk, rpfiB uji i to Oorfa. For this ihofl^J !^e the u*iTdw per 1Mb oT th* Adriatic th? jSrernmdnt hove consented to glvd f,*222 ZtS?i u lbe* wouM hm** p*i<l ou iS! V* ???Corfu, vli ?3.600 por annum. Thd ??? ? *?**"?? ?J ?>ing ihtocable trill bo about ?30,OOP, th.' oompsny, pot bartho necessary capital, belnfl compelled to pay ^e?-e ciaaa & EUlot, the ooauraotora, In preference shares of etgU per cent. If ??**>? trer* contractors would ooa,,?ieto the work for about ?12,000. The length ef the line u aixty miles, aad It I* to be laid in 600 fatboma water, while the steamers am on the spot Harare Glare Ai Elliot bare agreed to attaaapt the restoration of tbe Malta aad Corfu ltna, oa the tarma that, If successful, they are to be paid ?8.000, and, If not. that they ara to be entitled to one half or the value of ao much of the old cahle aa they recover. The Matte aacfc Csgliarl line la to be treated upon a almllar agreement; but, aa already intimated, there M no probnbtttty of iuc to be Ine light and ? The cable laid down la adi^l too weak for the purpoee for whleh It wae made. .Soma of the yovernmeata of Australia have agreM In give #. auhatdy for aubmarlne llnee to ooonect Auetralla wlto aome of the Island* In the Indian ocean, aad tbua provide n contlnuoua telegraphic communication with thht oountry, lb* cable whleh Is about to ha laid between Toulon and Algiers, aad that eiao between Otranto and Corfu, are much stronger and heavier than any that have yet beer laid lathe Mediterranean, aad the cable manufactured by order of the government to be laid In tbe Feat con ulna many improvements over those previously mvle. It was the result of tbe inquiries of a comtnietl iu of the meet eminent te'egrapbtc engineers, and its successful submergence and working are looked forward to with great confidence. The Chancellor or the Exchequer end President of tbe Beard of Trade entertained grave doubts aa to the possibility of lay lag the line to Gibraltar, and declined to sanction what they Unwed '? throwing the publio money to the bottom of the Bay of Sleety.'1 Be tween Rangoon and Singapore the water is not so deep, and It is considered In many respects well adapted for e submartne cable. ?With respect to tbe possibilities of future suoceaB In ley lag a cahle across the Atlantic, the exnerieaon which has been already obtained oanadt fail to be of Immense value to tboeo who may hertaftar berk In such an undertaking. On two potato, at least, and these are moat essential ones, there t? now happily no dlfferenoo of opto ion, for actual experience baajvwved their necessity; they ere, tbe use of n lighter csd% and the neotaeity of more oompleto ta Bulation of ttti inducting wire, in the case ol a tele ?? constructed above ground, aad supported by tnsu ^^?on poles, the electricity travels with tbe speed ot lightning; but when the copper wire to euekwed, aa ih most be when submerged in tba aea, or bwiedinths i earth, with gutta percba, some seriously retarding ate* menu come Into play. The electric exoitement of tttb wire acta by what to called ?'lndactkM," through thd casing which envelopes it, and calls Into aottoo an eleo trlc force of an opposite kind. There la electricity ia tba wire, and eleetrietry in the thin portion of water whiob> immediately surrounds tba cable; these force? act against each other, and to a certain extent destroy Ufh power of tbe transmitted current. The 2,000 miles of th* Atlantic telegraph became, by the action of thane foroee, a ley den jar, or immense battle for balding electricity, rather than a pipe for oonduottag the ftuld between IMF two continents; and the speed of the electricity. Instead, of being some 900,000 miles in a second, wan actually re duced to little more than 1,000 miles in that lime. Tbto re tarding Influence would have had a serious effect upon th* working of the line had It continued In good order; proba bly not more than f re word* in a minute could have been sent along the line, even with the moat improved node ol signals. It has been found that the electric fluid MM ?of oM upon sal nuvwii. upw v uute examination, to have been very seriously affeota* MMMM^MMta|to action of Itos'deM.aad Iby what to termed the electronic this baa been found to be more particolarly tbe caM la those perls where the thloMets of the los alalia* mate rial has been below the average, or where, owlag to nne mechankinl Injury,acavity has been formed iu the sub ?tenee. The man minute Inequality ar irregularity ea the snrtaee of tbe covering material will aflord soopntor the ad Ion of this subtle fluid, which, sooner or later, wtl) do ila wmk of destruction, and eat or horn for itself a passage out of Its prison house. The rapidity of It* action depends, of course, upon the Intensity end duration or tbe comma of electricity whiob are seat along the wire; I the stronger and more sustained the dischargee, the and more Intelligible tbe me?gee or signals am conveyed, with so much the more oerlately will the elec tricity operate upon any weak or Amity portion of lb* line which it to compelled to travel. Science may bring lightning trom the heavens and compel It to do the work of an ordinary messenger, but for down In the depths of the ooean it will take a secret end terrible revenge upon its herd taskmasters. Strangely enough, too, the longer the line the more speedy will be tbe work of destruction, for the llghtolng must be sent across the Atlantic -vita more then n two thousand flash power, while upon h shorter line n proportionately lees degree of reetotaaoh has te be overcome. The sondeston arrived at by Mr. Siemens, one ef the earliest and most successful laborers In the Mid of telegraphy, to, that "so long as any thin placce are allowed to remain to the galls perch* covering of a submarine conductor, so long will their 'nsualion foil by slow degrees." Such a discovery aa this appear to act aa a heavy blow and serious d.soourage meat to the progress of deep sea caMoe; but joet at tan ttoae when the undtnees of gutta perch* for tbe purpom has been shown, another subetanoe has been found, jwsesslng In every respect the qualities usoamary for (oroplcte and permanent insulation. Various mixture* or compounds have been tried as a covering for oopper wire: among oth-rs there to what is known as ? ) butter-ion's mixture," which Is used in tbe Rangoon cable, with Intermediate layers of gutta percha, aad la *"? "? found tba ' this i see It has been found that the tntulaiioo a mom then ten I.usee as complete as the oovering ol I he Red Ss* ? able, whleh ban oaly ordinary intli JVu.he. In tab case, however, of th ? cable, mneufoetured with ?-> moott care under the toepeetkm of the government, and srhtofe Is fully ten tlmns more oompirle'y Insulated then any which have set been mbmerged, there to too much ran <* to fear that It may also prove a failure. It hue hem silent for aome lime past, and may even now proba ta be added te tjte list of the many fkllurae of < abiee. India rubber hao mm found to g iwI |w?kr inoula^ ttoe, ud Iree of thai induct Ire capacity which la the pro Sofgutl* perch* 11 Lea the merit, alao of er boaeogeelty aad Mora roetattag power to lhe?E of beat, aad appear* to (ttro preoiM af being cut bla of moat aeeeaarfal application. Mean Mirer b Co, wbooo axtanetre oatobltahmeota to Biabopagata atreet alteat the almoot oooatleaa rirlatr of pnrpooea to which the Protean en balance, India rubber, may bo applied, bar* devoted a great amount of atlootloo to the beat Bodaaof oortrlogtho oooduettag win with tba material. Tbo rooaH of a largo aoaMor af etpot lataata mad* by Mr. women* baa baao to eotabltab ta tba Boat oompleto manner tba amount of raalataooa afforded by India robber aa an laaulatiog eubataaoe, and lu great ta per tortty orar tbo gotta gar aba. A aartaa of lab laa af the apaclfc r?# tetanic of rar ooa laauitad aaatnrlab at didbraot boptftlirti. an eobmltted to tbo lota meeting of tba ant lab Aaaoctatta*. It ta not aaay to oocrey to the geaeral reader en Intelligible analyaia oftbaaa rmolta; but, aaaemlog that the value of gotta peroha a* aa taos lei'e at 63 degreea > ahreohell ta reprmmtad by tba deal mat 0 019, or rotbar leaa then tba anil 1. then Ike India robber out*red win of Miami Stiver would bo eotab I ta bod at M ?, ar forty right time* greater than Mat af Ma cable made lor Me a lien lie telegraph At T3 de greee the advantage would be la fa rar of India robber la the proportion of 40 0 to 0 6, or ninety eight llaaao greater, and nl 71 degreea tba retail re merit* would bo irpreaaotad b^SX 0 to 0 JO?, or oaorly afproa-btng to Tbo ooa of lad la robber aa ao loaataling medium la ao oreUy The grot attempt of tiibmario* telegraphy area made wttb Mia aaatartal by Mr Waal ta lMd, wbea electric earn men leaitooa mora aatabltabad betwaeo bar tatatfb ahtpa Ptqoe ard take, oad acraaa Porta mooM harbor, by meant of a pert lea af a cable blooded to bare been taid bete alata Ike cable ao taaolated WW aid aa tatmtad, ewlag to the FraaOb lag made an to wttb otber part Mo to tar tbo telegraph, bet portion* af M were aabmaagtd betweaai Hi ret Of tie and Me late of Wight, aad bare oootloood ta good working cedar up to the preeaat lima Other par l loot of the cat 'e hare hrco aohjeeted ta a pitaoura very teg f?om 7 MO to Id ,000 Me taob, wttbout a Me boat at fertirg ita nwubtiea or tba enedeattM power of Ibtaa cbead wire, lo Me earlier oitimpta ta ooat Me wire wtata ltd* robber eonetderahlc dBfemltlm bad to be BTwaemo in enooaqueooe of Me nature of the material uaad India robber doea net been am poetic at low temperature, aad It woe taaod km proa;hie to draw it apim tbo wire Mb* ma rear eel or got la perch*, and Ilia oely made at maat pubtlng it waa by w'ndtng M in Mia ribbon* apt rally round tbo wtra. Bet by tbta pruoom taaoa woo a wont off ecbeetco la tbo over lapping porta, nod tbo mat lag wab I upon Ita imprwvamaota mode by Maaaro. ? ? oooatat ta oa altartag tba ebtrwatar of Mo malaria], aa to render it not only eobeelre, but tolid and imltarat^itaoutjb^tba Jewel injuring ihe valuable q net! gotta p tr tan In tawod to bo portion ta Ita textarefeeTel laino many gralaa of decoy and dmnaapuatt on while tho ladtarohher gom b eimoet eal rely free f-m. them do- I aad wb*a aoUdiiied will raolat botb air and water, aay application of preaaiio. Tbo napmtaaata ly nftaied ta prwre tbo tlmoot total tboeuea of P of tboataotata fluid from wlro aorered wiM l?* to mb bar, aad tho raioe, therefore, of the dlo ore-y af ? iimnta aad eeconmtcai mode of applying the ?name' o the mtonfactora of lubomrtne ntagyapha caaaot bo tofr Mt ere, Ikattan, ample genua ta Ibr lodutalag tba ? IbatabdltaoaMimiMyatbeaaratecuiad. daeyeob rtae telegraph* horn tailed. but the cauee of f?i.. re m be iliitlnctly traced to want of knowledge of the rj nail tua fd ibaaottrbJe employed,aad the peculiar chvartar of tba ?leotrladuM. There baa bom act only laeuTrieaieapart mae bet* great want of doe care la the man, 'arteee ofeeb marine tetrgragba^aad a deelre to eommmtoo expend,tera. moreperfrct ineul*| .u, prorl ied by tfr w* tat .er, of Todbrohber, or other r table mater *b,M-great ilhculty of Induction and retardation would be to a great * tent trrercsme Wttb rm ect to Me onoatroctMo of tbo dbte ttaalf, experience baa fbltr Mown that Ma aptral ran noad lag of wire la not only ucaenaarary hot prwrtlre trierlouo. A lighter end more boortnt dea> r'ptbo of " bmartne telegraph bte l*en on more than o*e -mba Nroogfr recowmimded by aelootl ft# eeotr'butera to lb# (tarrnrr. aad we e?*?rtela o miifotent hope lh*t If receot eiiurieore I* allowed to evwt ttr teoper u.iiiieoca, aad If old Ihrprte* art mod,fled ?r abaadoocd, when found Incone ateut wllb preriwm, ?aim, W may yrt, by the end of Me neat imtwc bo .tared la telegraphic comia *atmtbm with Beer York and a 'ornla, aod bare made very great progroee toeurctg he atlwflb of tit* *y?tem to Win and China Tho Atlowtte Talagmob Cable. TO TBI g Of TOW Ot TBI italltl. The nub r? of telegraphic -a w th ?Vrog a> of i*te taken ap muah atteetioa aad apac a y.,V ridely drmlated paper AHtw m* a taw remae?? m .ply to t Tbo lino arrom Itahrtng-*-'raite, iho^fb vertuaiiy a apltadid eaUwrr m, l* aMogo?.ier premature, be ptaWM fltatta 'wwmwwiwutton with Yaropo wooM rove a taertar f wn raliahie ipcar^ bv * ** u.ggg

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